From LIFE Magazine, August, 1946
Feels like a 1940s ad for cigarettes now that we know red meat significantly increases risk of cardiovascular disease, breast and various gastrointestinal cancers, and type 2 diabetes.
Ya, I was just thinking this is a great example of a propaganda poster.
all ads are propaganda
Every company website is propaganda too.
Kind of a false equivalency there. The casual link between meat consumption and those diseases is much less clear than cigarettes and cancer. In fact, overconsumption of sugars is much more directly linked to type 2 diabetes than meat consumption, for example.
overconsumption of sugars is much more directly linked to type 2 diabetes than meat consumption
… Duh? Everyone knows that. You’re talking about logical fallacies and then going on to an irrelevant whataboutism.
- Red meat has a higher association with CVD, CVD subtypes (e.g. stroke), and diabetes.
- Total incidence of cancer in a plant-based diet is 15% lower than an omnivorous one. (same meta-analysis finds 25% reduced risk of CAD in vegetarians)
- Here’s a collection of meta-analyses and systemic reviews showing this association over and over and over again from just the last decade alone.
If you want to hide your head in the sand over unprocessed red meat “only” being a Group 2A carcinogen (processed meat is Group 1 and has been since 2015, meaning definitively causing cancer; in that sense, those hot dogs on the left are causally linked to cancer), be my guest. Doesn’t change the reality that eating red meat for some strange reason I guess we’ll never know significantly elevates risk for at least four of the leading causes of death in the developed world.
Edit: And if this is supposed to be some false dichotomy where eating meat is the lesser evil because anything else would risk diabetes from carbohydrate overconsumption, have I got some interesting news for you.
Interventional studies have shown that vegetarian diets, especially a vegan diet, are effective tools in glycemic control and that these diets control plasma glucose to a greater level than do control diets, including diets traditionally recommended for patients with diabetes
Guess the American Diabetes Association just hasn’t seen this 1946 poster yet, or they’d understand.
Interventional studies have shown that vegetarian diets, especially a vegan diet, are effective tools in glycemic control and that these diets control plasma glucose to a greater level than do control diets, including diets traditionally recommended for patients with diabetes
Ah, yes, the good ol’ oreo and potato chip diet.
I roll my eyes whenever any of these diet comparisons come up, because comparing a vegan diet to an omnivorous diet doesn’t really take into account diet quality, which is likely a far more significant factor in health outcomes than what particular diet cult you join. An omnivore who exclusively gets all their food from the local organic farmer’s market is going to have better health outcomes than the vegan with a pantry full of oreos. I don’t even think organic food is any healthier for you - I just think that simply giving a shit about your health and acting on it will produce better health outcomes, and everything else is either genetic or negligible. Which accounts for some amount of the improved health outcomes for vegans and vegetarians - there is so much hype about how they are “healthy” diets that people who are already more inclined to care about their health choose to adopt these diets.
Like, should you eat a carnivore diet for the rest of your life? Probably not. But that doesnt mean that a grilled steak with a side of potatoes and broccoli is bad for you. It’s fine. Assuming you eat a healthy diet and live a generally healthy life, maybe skipping meat would add on a year or two. Great, now you die at 82 instead of 80 - 2 more years of achey joints and incontinence while you rot in a nursing home, woohoo!
Personally, I’d rather just enjoy my life and die a little sooner.
Ugh… vegans. Worse than Mormons
What the fuck is this response
Ugh… Assholes. Everyone has them, but you use yours to type. Apart for being impressed at how much practice that must have taken you, really: stop defecating on the world with your words, shitheels.
I’m sorry. I’ll try to make your claims about health less disingenuous going forward.
Notice how he didn’t actually address the point you made, just threw a wall of weak epidemiology and appeal to authority about a different subject.
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Don’t care, didn’t plan on living forever anyway.
You’re welcome to do what you want. My comment wasn’t trying to stop you from smoking.
Imagine saying “I work for the American Meat Institute”.
I thought that was slightly humorous, but apparently they merged with others to become the “North American Meat Institute” in 2015… and theres a whole subsidiary that Im sure people have business cards spelling out: the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council… giggity.
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Maybe this would be harder to make fun of if they’d used much better cuts of meat in the poster.
This maybe fits in a boring dystopia.
They’re all ground up, so I don’t see how you could know what cuts were used.
I thought this was satire after looking at the state of those burgers.
What’s wrong with the patties?
Nothing is wrong - it looks like a real food photo rather then the modern style of non-edible things made to look like some idealized concept of food.
I’m amazed. Maybe they only had one exposure left on the camera.
