• Trail@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Would have helped if the bar colors were rainbow colors or something.

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      I didn’t get that at first, either. I thought red, white, & blue with pastels or faded.

      I also thought

      outliers by sexuality/gender identity

      would amount to more than 1%, so my mind didn’t go there, either.

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        The colors are the trans support flag. Trans people make up about 1% of the population.

        This is not hard to understand.

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          The colors are also common in ALL 2010s-era media. Vaporwave, Corporate Memphis, Mallsoft, Kaybug, the twisted necromancing of McBling, and absolutely in LGBTQIA±whatever media, which isn’t bad (the 2010s was an actual cultural decade) in general (especially not in reference towards that last one) but everyone was a sexuality civil rights protester in Hollywood in that decade and the general color scheme was so common that a 13-year old may be realizing for the first time that we once used red. We used green. We used yellow with red and green and blue, in so, so many ways.

          Experience is relative. The 80s was never as pink as Vaporwave makes us think it was. The 70s was brown because of Kodak color cameras made specifically so that “Black” people’s skin now shows up as it’s actual color on film (and digital photos). The 60s was more than counter-culture. The 90s was indeed a golden age, but one that was built on foundations too unstable to last. The 2000s were not devoid of culture, but drained of it by the “War on Terror” and shallow celebrity cultist behavior.

          Someday, people will look back on this like a news article from WWII. Elon’s “Xitter” logo is the new swastika, mark my words. As for the American Flag, it’ll be lucky if it gets off easy like the Soviet Flag did.

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          The colors are the trans support flag. Trans people make up about 1% of the population.

          Whom is the message directed at? People who would get those frames of reference?

          Telling gender activists who would get those frames of reference that they are focusing on the wrong 1% would be odd. Telling the people focusing on the wrong 1% using frames of reference they would likely miss is odder still.

          For lack of a better word, the message is a bit subculture-centric by assuming everyone shares a particular frame of reference. Of course, you understand, but that’s preaching to the choir.

          Unless you immediately get the frames of reference, it is hard to understand. That you think it isn’t indicates a self-centered myopia.

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            That was a very long way of saying, “I don’t know pride flags”

            Most bigots know which flags they hate. This is a moot argument.

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              That’s a very short way of missing the point.

              You think bigots or anyone else would bother recalling/recognizing flags of low relevance in their experience? It looks like faded red, white, and blue.

              I’m sorry, bruh: you’re just confirming everything I wrote about self-centered myopia.

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                Put a pride flag outside your house and count how many bigots start asking you about it. Go to any conservative event with a pride flag of any kind and they’ll all know what it is.

                It’s okay to admit you didn’t know something.

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                  He is admiting he doesn’t know. You don’t understand that many other people other than you do not know.

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                  I mean, it’s really dumb to assume bigots of all people understand what they hate, up to and including the symbols…

                  If they understood it as much as you clearly assume, most probably wouldn’t be bigots… I agree the messaging of the shirt isn’t the worst, nor its packaging, but they’re totally correct about bigots not understanding much.

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                    Conservative media has taught them what to be made about. I’m not saying they understand it. I’m saying they will see the colors and know because they’ve been told to hate those colors.

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                  Maybe some will if it’s clearly a flag. This isn’t a flag, though: it’s a shirt with a vague color scheme.

                  Recognizing a flag there takes a step & a frame of reference. Again, you’re just telling me it’s clear from your perspective, which doesn’t mean much.

                  For something to hit hard, it first needs to hit the audience it’s directed at, which isn’t you. If only likeminded thinkers it’s not directed at think it hits, then it isn’t hitting shit.

                  But sure: go ahead and discount an outside perspective telling you they’re not getting this. Pretend it doesn’t matter because likeminded thinkers in your echo chamber do get it, so of course everyone else should get it, too. That’s totally valid reasoning & not exactly the way a fundamentalist thinks.