• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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      1 year ago

      I’m an elder millennial but you guys are in the same boat. No idea how we’re going to afford housing down the line.

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        Don’t worry, with the collapse of the environment, the economy won’t really matter. So, we at least have that going for us, which is nice.

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        1. Lower standards
        2. Buy shitty small rural house built nearly 200 years ago
        3. Spend any and all free time & money learning the skills & buying the tools to strip it down and rebuild it. All of it is online. Do it quietly and you won’t have to pull permits. Hold yourself to a higher standard than what a permit will allow and you’ll be fine.
        4. Continue to invest in yourself and your skills. You will become a rich person if you do this, if not in money, then knowledge. The earlier you can do this, the more value will compound off of your skillset.

        It’s not fun but it’s possible for myself, born 98. Got my little slice and the sunsets and stars are sure damn pretty out in the boonies. Gotta deal with the rednecks & general small mindedness though.

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          If your professionnal situation lets you do this, go for it. Problem is, for a lot of people including myself, jobs are in the city. Moreover, here in France, by living in the countryside, you get an additionnal bonus of :

          • no public transit

          • no hospital

          • no doctor

          • no school

          • no post office

          • no bakery (the worst)

          (edit: formatting)

        • henfredemars@infosec.pub
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          Appreciate the down-to-earth response. Might have to head this direction sooner or later, except maybe with a tiny plot of land and an improved shed if it comes down to it. I’ll take something that works over homeless.

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            Look into trailers, campers, shed, tiny home, and military surplus tents. Be careful not to get too into the Instagram version of the “vanlife” lifestyle, it is trickier that it seems in the photos and IMO vans suck cos you don’t need engine problems on your home.

            I lived in a camper trailer because I got it for the equivalent of 6 months rent and I knew if I lived in it any longer it would technically a net gain, and I was able to still sell it after. Two years in that thing with Midwest winters lmao.

            If you are lucky, you can find a rural property sold as undeveloped with a very old or abandoned building that you’d be able to fix up. I would avoid the West, unless you have a foolproof water source.

            We have the entire knowledge of the collective human history at our fingertips. People built shit by winging it for the majority of human history. You’d have been a god among men 200 years ago. Fuck some shit up. Fail fast and fail forward

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        I did a PhD so I was a little late to the “real world” than other millenials. And I gotta say GenZ are in a much worse boat than millenials depending on location. In the Toronto area I’d say there’s a lucky subset of millenials who will never afford a home but have been in a rent-controlled unit for a few years. Idk how affordable having an apartment to yourself would be for gen z. To spend only 35% of your income on rent in Toronto right now for a 1 bedroom you’d need to be in the top quintile for HH income.

        I think I joked previously the millenial experience was going on zillow to look at houses you’ll never afford while the genz experience is looking at apartments you’ll never afford.

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          The solution is to burn down all homes so nobody has a place to live. A sorta “if I can’t have THING no one will”.

          In Minecraft, of course 😉