• Fusselwurm@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    Also you cannot just leave NATO. Leaving the EU is hard, but at least still possible. For explanation please look at the elections results of the past decades of any western country.You’d get a whopping 80-95% across the board for pro-NATO parties.

    “You CANNOT just leave NATO ! Because you do not WANT to leave NATO !” is … quite a galaxy-brain take.

    Yes, manufactured consent is unfortunately rather indistinguishable from people having their own opinions, and if any opinion can be “manufactured”, you get to circular reasoning like “your not leaving NATO proves that you are actually forbidden from leaving”.

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      5 days ago

      This is pure semantics.

      If you can never vote for leaving NATO, then you factually cannot leave it.

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        12 hours ago

        why would i not be able to do that? you underestimate the amount of political freedoms we have.

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          11 hours ago

          Because the political system doesn’t allow for it. I’m sure you don’t want me to repeat myself, but it’s not possible to just elect a party who would want that. Look at the election results of past decades. You’ll see the vast majority of any parties that make it into parliaments are pro-NATO. You cannot democratically beat that.

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            25 minutes ago

            Let me try a different tack.

            You can’t elect a party that’s anti-bread. Virtually all parties that make it into parliament are pro-bread. You cannot democratically beat bread, the system doesnt allow it.

            Sounds ridiculous, right?