100% right. Plus they were late to the party: the Shatner-Nichols kiss was absolutely groundbreaking on television in 1968, but a gay kiss on streaming in 2017 was not.
Some people hated Discovery because of progressive values, sure, but I hated it because these values were packaged in such flat characters as you said, participating in sci-fi stories that were just plain bad.
100% right. Plus they were late to the party: the Shatner-Nichols kiss was absolutely groundbreaking on television in 1968, but a gay kiss on streaming in 2017 was not.
Some people hated Discovery because of progressive values, sure, but I hated it because these values were packaged in such flat characters as you said, participating in sci-fi stories that were just plain bad.
The only reason I disliked any of the gay was that it was pandering. Everyone was gay first and a person second.
Maybe I’m a bit backwards in this but I seriously could not give less of a shit who someone chooses to fuck and be romantically involved with.
I do. not. fucking. care.
I don’t care if your partner is the same gender as you, a different sex, or a fucking level 13 druid owl otherkin.
It has zero effect on me.
Which also means that if your whole personality boils down to “I’m gay” or “I’m straight” then your whole personality is SUPER uninteresting.
It applies to art, too. Pandering is lazy, it is not engaging, and it is straight up bad writing.
Could not agree with you both more.