• PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au
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    3 days ago

    I’ve dealt with this enough times in the last few days that I didn’t feel like arguing about it in one more place deep in the comments, so you’ve inspired me to create [email protected] instead. Congrats! I’ll post up (or more likely copy from somewhere else) a detailed rebuttal there.

    Edit: Posted a more detailed response there. You’re invited to go over there and address the issue, if this is anything other than just a little drive-by “Substack = Nazis! Don’t forget this bite sized narrative I would prefer if you used as part of your worldview!” turd-launching.

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      3 days ago

      If a Nazi walks into a bar and nobody kicks them out, you’re in a Nazi bar.

      Substack has yet to kick out the Nazis, therefore they are a Nazi platform.

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        3 days ago

        Yeah, that’s about the level of response I expected lol. What the hell, I’ll answer it even though I already spent time putting together a lot more detailed response over there.

        If a Nazi walks into a bar and nobody kicks them out, you’re in a Nazi bar.

        This is 100% correct. However, when the bar is designed to hold 49.4 million people, you have to start to use different rules. That’s why we don’t kick people out of colleges if they start to show Nazi views, state government doesn’t tell people they can’t publish newspapers that are Nazi newspapers, and so on. The level of scrutiny and oversight you have to start to do (and questions like “Who is it that decides what is forbidden content? How do we make sure that, forever, pro-Palestinian content just as a random example doesn’t suddenly one day find itself lumped in with the ‘officially forbidden’ content?”) just isn’t reasonable for a generic platform, in the way that it is for who’s allowed to walk into a physical bar and hang out there.

        That’s my opinion. I actually do see it as perfectly reasonable to say you think Substack should kick out the tiny tiny minority of Nazis, because of the obvious reasons. I don’t agree, but it’s perfectly reasonable. But “FUCK THAT NAZI PLATFORM” is the total bullshit that inspired me to create the community.