• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Your first paragraph is you literally agreeing with my premise.

    I’d believe you if you actually read the studies I posted and didn’t just sealion nonsense. I have given a lot of evidence.

    I’m here to make sure acturate and reasonable information is what we agree on

    The onus is on you to make a compelling case.

    I didn’t bother looking at any of your other links, by the way. Drowning someone in citations

    Gee, so you’re a liar. Since you clearly DON’T care about the info, I assume it is because you have some personal narrative you are protecting, and with fat phobia, that’s an ED. That’s not an insult. It’s a condition that you are not addressing amd putting onto others, causing harm. It’s also not an insult to say you refuse to learn when you yourself say you refuse to learn. I’m sure you will look for studies to confirm your ED so you don’t have to change.

    It is better to have adequate vitamin intake, weight is simply a side effect of that and should not be the sole focus because it is caused by existing vitamin deficiencies and restricting vitamin intake worsens it. Again causing people to break diets and gain weight back, sometimes more. Telling a person with nutritional deficiencies to withhold food to heal is like telling someone with a broken leg to walk on it to heal (ie, medical torture).

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      Your first paragraph is you literally agreeing with my premise.

      I understood your premise to be that vitamin deficiencies cause obesity. Is that not the case? Because what I said was different.

      I’m currently working my way through this lecture. It takes me a while to get through dense information, so I probably won’t get back to you on my independent learning for a long time, if ever.

      Cheers.

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        1 day ago

        But like, the kinds of modern diets that produces obesity are traditionally missing vitamins so, it could easily just be that eating a family-size bag of Cheetos for a meal will leave you fat with malnutrition.

        This. This chronic malnutrition overlays with environmental pressures such as sickness and toxins, which like I’ve literally explained thoroughly, the liver and vitamin stores then get even more depleted as they use these vitamins in your immune system to deal with this. People then crave high fat foods and gain weight chasing the small amounts of vitamins in their food. The vitamin deficiency causes the cravings. If you give them vitamins, esp vitamin k and vitamin e, they will not seek out high fat foods as much.

        I have celiac disease, a fat malabsorption diease. I used to crave sticks of butter, like eating it like a chocolate bar. This (eating sticks of butter) is actually so common in people with celiac that it’s one of the first things I ask about when I meet someone else with it. Now that I have proper vitamin levels, I crave yogurt, fruit, and lettuce, and biting butter makes me wanna yarf. A sign I need to supplement or eat fat soluble vitamins is if I start really craving fats.

        Good luck

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          21 hours ago

          Okay, so I understand where our interpretations of the same information diverge, but getting into it is genuinely a philosophical argument that won’t have practical value. I agree with the information you’re presenting. Later!