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when i first heard about the male loneliness epidemic i was like oh yeah close camaraderie and bonding between men is often discouraged in favor of competition or, if not discouraged, at least filtered through a lens of individualism that precludes deep connections. and then i learned what people meant by it (men arent getting laid) to which i say skill issue

to all the men out there not getting laid: try less hard to get laid and try more hard to be an enjoyable and relaxing presence

  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    That isn’t what people mean by it. Loneliness means loneliness.

    Imagine what would happen if somebody said this about women. Are you lonely, ladies? Have you tried being enjoyable and relaxing? And you should smile more!

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      10 hours ago

      Yes but there’s an existing stereotype of men who want nothing but to get laid, that’s why it’s relevant in this case. Context matters

      Edit: THEY EXIST. Doesn’t mean all men are like that. You guys are too sensitive lol. I’m thinking pickup artists and other guys who completely objectify women.

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          I didn’t mean to apply it to all men. I’m talking about guys that focus on “pickup artists”, the numbers game, it’s all about making women into a prize to achieve, which is not the right mindset to go about it.

          That’s all I meant. I’m not calling you that.

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        Oh shit there’s a stereotype so let’s apply it to everyone suffering this.

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      22 hours ago

      I can’t possibly be doing the jerkoff gesture any harder than I’m doing it right now. Oh, the poor lonely men…

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        You are giving the incels exactly what they want. You are letting them hijack the fact that people are lonely into another reason why they are “victims” of society. You are dismissing every good person that feels like shit because you can’t stop thinking about bad people. You are the problem.

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          Incels don’t matter.

          And no decent men are concerned about a male “loneliness epidemic.”

          Oh, dear- I’m part of the problem.

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            Incels don’t matter. - You are right, now, how about you stop letting their shit arguments cloud your better judgement.

            I also don’t like the epidemic being labeled as being “male only”, it is far more universal to only affect men. This is apparent by looking at any recent study of loneliness in society. Everybody has become more lonely.

            How can you seriously dismiss every lonely man (or anybody else lonely for that matter) as some fucking incel because some shitheads online whine about the same shit they have been whining for about for last decade? Do you seriously not see what you are doing?

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              it is far more universal to only affect men. This is apparent by looking at any recent study of loneliness in society. Everybody has become more lonely.

              Cool. So you agree that there is no “male loneliness epidemic,” but rather just a regular human issue that aspiring rapists have decided to co-opt in order to sound sympathetic.

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                13 hours ago

                Yes. The same issue that then you seem to try to diminish by equating those men who experience it to incels, under the guise that decent men are not lonely. Do you think people who are lonely are not decent? Do you think they deserve it? Fuck. That. Shit.

                Neither of us are on the side of the incels, fuck those bastards. But your hateboner for incels is so large that you shit on lonely men as a group, instead of critizing the fucking misogynist creep rat bastard subset that are the problem. Not “Cool”.

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                  Decent men who are lonely talk about it like human beings. They don’t need to hide behind a bullshit “male loneliness epidemic.”

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                    You talk as if every single lonely male won’t shut up about the male loneliness epidemic. It is just a fucking term used to incorrectly refer to how people are lonelier now. They are not hiding behind anything, dipshit. You continue, yet again, to purposely take the words of a few extremists and pretend its representative of lonely men as a whole.

                    Fuck it, I don’t have any reason to continue this death spiral with you. You have made up your mind, and you refuse to let reality inside. Have fun playing pretend.

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        go back to reddit

        edit: every single fucking time I open the user profile for somebody who posted some low-effort spew like this ITT, they’re all up in whitepeopletwitter. curious… 🤔