• AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    The cost of your approach, is guaranteed financial failure for said devs, regardless of the outcome. To succeed, it would require enough users to change their purchase habits that finance companies would even notice. We all know the chances of that happening are miniscule. You’d be giving the crazies exactly what they want.

    Mastercard/Visa doesn’t give a fuck about your emails. Just hit them in the pocket book

    Have you not been paying attention to the campaign? That’s exactly what they’re doing, they’re tying up the customer support systems in a way that will be noticed and can’t be ignored. It’s having an instant effect on their bottom line since they’ll have to be scheduling more shifts right now to deal with the increased workload. Nobody’s suggesting emails.

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      7 days ago

      Have you not been paying attention to the campaign? That’s exactly what they’re doing, they’re tying up the customer support systems in a way that will be noticed and can’t be ignored. It’s having an instant effect on their bottom line since they’ll have to be scheduling more shifts right now to deal with the increased workload. Nobody’s suggesting emails.

      That’s not how any of this shit works.

      Visa/Mastercard aren’t even known for good service (that’s AmEx who cares about that). More realistically, Visa/Mastercard customer service declines during this protest period and 3 months from now everyone forgets about today’s campaign.

      And Visa/Mastercard can then feel big and powerful as we didn’t actually do anything to stop them.


      Switching to a different card actually deprives them of their fucking revenue. The thing Visa/Mastercard actually cares about.

      Which is why I’m pushing either Discover or AmEx as the serious protest options. It seems Discover is better for this particular protest as we can still pay for stuff internationally for the international creators. (AmEx is not as good at that but is still a valid protest option if you prefer their customer service and/or travel lounges).

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        More realistically, Visa/Mastercard customer service declines during this protest period and 3 months from now everyone forgets about today’s campaign.

        Keep in mind that this started because of a small telecall campaign by said Australian fringe group. There’s no reason the finance guys would have upset the status quo on their own. If a few hundred people could annoy them enough to do this, what makes you think thousands of people wouldn’t impact them?

        Switching to a different card

        As I noted, that guarantees financial death for the impacted game devs. Steam and Itch aren’t just a point of sale, they’re a discovery service. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear 80-90% of sales for these devs come from a couple main platforms.

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          Keep in mind that this started because of a small telecall campaign by said Australian fringe group.

          What? No.

          Visa/Mastercard have been doing this shit for literally years. Then some small Australian fringe group knew they had allies in Visa/Mastercard to ban some porn so they emailed Visa/Mastercard.


          As I noted, that guarantees financial death for the impacted game devs.

          The warnings were literally years ago. Pretending that Visa/Mastercard are allies or even neutral on this issue is naive.

          Visa/Mastercard have been pushing Sony and other video games to be less sexy for several years now.

          I don’t expect Visa/Mastercard to cave on anything here. They’ve already made themselves a reputation on the more prudish side of things.