… You know with the TAKE IT DOWN act, there are no real safeguards against them just randomly declaring that anyone at all is hosting illegal content and needs to be shut down, right? They skipped past the UK’s whole inevitable “age verification for porn, oh hey you know that would be a good idea for everything, oh hey you know what I was thinking” progression and just went straight to “get this wrongthink off the internet or we’re coming for you.”
I’m not sure how take it down is related. It is unfortunate how broad the scope can be but in my opinion it’s still less of a violation than being required to dox yourself to use services.
Having to dox yourself to use the internet sure isn’t great. Having the government have a tool that can pretty plausibly be used to take down any speech they don’t like is much worse.
Hmmm, that’s a hard one for me. They’re both very bad but personally having to submit ID makes me less comfortable…that being said I wouldn’t call government censorship a win either. Maybe the main reason I find ID to be more concerning isn’t because of some objective reason but rather because it’s in your face rather than being in the shadows and humans don’t do well with threats they can’t see. Ultimately I think you might be right and I’m not advocating for either…just saying that currently the US cyber laws make me feel less ICK… although that might be a very subjective viewpoint. I think the real take away is all western nations seem to be going down a kinda bad path but that also isn’t new unfortunately.
… You know with the TAKE IT DOWN act, there are no real safeguards against them just randomly declaring that anyone at all is hosting illegal content and needs to be shut down, right? They skipped past the UK’s whole inevitable “age verification for porn, oh hey you know that would be a good idea for everything, oh hey you know what I was thinking” progression and just went straight to “get this wrongthink off the internet or we’re coming for you.”
I’m not sure how take it down is related. It is unfortunate how broad the scope can be but in my opinion it’s still less of a violation than being required to dox yourself to use services.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws
Having to dox yourself to use the internet sure isn’t great. Having the government have a tool that can pretty plausibly be used to take down any speech they don’t like is much worse.
Hmmm, that’s a hard one for me. They’re both very bad but personally having to submit ID makes me less comfortable…that being said I wouldn’t call government censorship a win either. Maybe the main reason I find ID to be more concerning isn’t because of some objective reason but rather because it’s in your face rather than being in the shadows and humans don’t do well with threats they can’t see. Ultimately I think you might be right and I’m not advocating for either…just saying that currently the US cyber laws make me feel less ICK… although that might be a very subjective viewpoint. I think the real take away is all western nations seem to be going down a kinda bad path but that also isn’t new unfortunately.