• Flax@feddit.ukOP
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    These cops are bastards. Some cops are nice and genuine. This isn’t America. Stop trying to import american trump degeneracy into our fair kingdom

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      ACAB is legitimate here. It’s not a Trumpism. Day to day community policing, yes, you can have good interactions with them. But they also have no qualms smashing a peaceful protestor over the head with a baton if they’re allowed as well. There’s been enough stories of corruption and abuse within multiple UK police forces, throughout its history and in modern times, to say ACAB.

      Also, is it fuck a fair kingdom.

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        Loud minority. Everytime I have been involved with the police they went above and beyond.

        Also, is it fuck a fair kingdom.

        Privilege

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          Unfortunately your anecdotal evidence doesn’t change history. My experience has been very mixed bag. Some have been despicable bastards and some, as you said, have gone above and beyond. But their history, and government inquiries confirming institutional racism etc cements them still in the bastard category.

          I do believe they’re improving, the force isn’t just 6ft+ white, straight, cis, British men any more. It’s diverse enough that homophobia, racism, etc are challenged and not tolerated like they once were, but it still happens. They’re still not good enough to throw off the badge of ACAB.

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            SCAB,SAAD

            Some cops are bastard, some are actually decent

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              SICCMABRAHBTIOTPISCBVITTNWTDBTIATOWWACYHPTALRAMASTDILA

              Some Individual Cops May Actually Be Reasonable And Honest But The Institution Of The Police Is So Corrupted By Vested Interests That There’s No Way To Distinguish Between Those Individuals And The Ones Who Would Actively Cause You Harm Plus They’re Almost All Racist And Mysoginist Anyway So The Distinction Is Largely Academic

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                Most aren’t. Every single police officer I have interacted with has been reasonable. I only hear about these issues when they make the news.

                Don’t get me wrong, it needs improving, there shouldn’t be any racism or misogyny in there, but I think just dismissing them as bastards when these are the people who’d put their lives on the line for us if we were threatened is unfair.

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                  You missed the point I was making that the systemic problems with the police mean that collectively they are all bastards.

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          A middle class white lady in the US would probably concur regarding her own police experiences

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      ACAB applies even for the nice and genuine cops.

      It’s about criticisms of policing as an institution, not individuals

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        It’s about criticisms of policing as an institution, not individuals

        No, ACAB literally means “all cops are bastards”. It removes room for ambiguity. It’s not like someone saying “fuck the police”. And then they can say “I mean the institution”.

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      These cops are bastards. Some cops are nice and genuine.

      This is true pretty much everywhere, even America.

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        Then why do Americans constantly say “all cops are bastards?”

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          It’s a slogan used as a protest statement, particularly within anti-establishment and anti-police movements. The acronym has a long history, particularly within subcultures like punk, skinheads, and football hooligans. It’s also associated with anarchist and anti-authoritarian ideologies.

          It also originated in England.