Austria’s Foreign Minister advocates for a discussion on the limits of neutrality, emphasizing the need for stronger defense amid rising global tensions.

Austria’s Foreign Minister Beate Meinl-Reisinger has called for an open discussion on the country’s long-standing neutrality, stating that it no longer guarantees national security in the face of growing geopolitical instability and an increasingly aggressive Russia.

In an interview with Die Welt, Meinl-Reisinger emphasized that neutrality alone does not protect Austria and pointed to the importance of strengthening defense capabilities and deepening international partnerships. “Austria is protected by investment in its own defense capacities and in its partnerships,” she said.

The minister’s remarks follow a proposal by Emil Brix, Director of the Diplomatic Academy of Vienna, suggesting that Austria consider joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Meinl-Reisinger expressed support for a public debate on the issue, acknowledging that the current political and public majority remains opposed to NATO membership.

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Meinl-Reisinger also addressed Russia’s ongoing war against Ukraine, stating that Ukraine seeks peace, while Russia continues its campaign of aggression. She added that if Russian leader Vladimir Putin were genuinely interested in peace, he would have engaged in ceasefire negotiations.

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  • Quittenbrot@feddit.orgEnglish
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    4 days ago

    That’s not the elephant in the room.

    It is and you know it. There is exactly one reason why Sweden and Finland joined NATO and to pretend it is a different one here is at best absurd.

    I want to know how the front can reach Austria.

    Austria doesn’t need to proof to you that they ‘justifiably’ want into NATO. If they want in, they can come in, simple as that. I also find it a bit strange that there is always this sentiment transpiring here that you want to tell other countries what to do.

    • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
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      4 days ago

      An elephant in the room is something that everybody knows but nobody mentions. In that sense the war is no elephant.

      Austria can do whatever it wants. I just don’t buy the argument that the war in Ukraine had changed the Austrian security situation to the point that they have to join Nato. They can join because they feel threatened but usually some rational strategic reason should exist. I am asking for that reason but I only receive evasions.

      • Quittenbrot@feddit.orgEnglish
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        4 days ago

        In that sense the war is no elephant.

        Yet you fail to acknowledge that this war has unprecedented effects on the security concerns of European countries. That’s the elephant you’re constantly avoiding. Instead of acknowledging that it is eventually Russia itself with its own stupid and pointless war forcing these countries into NATO, you instead try to shift the blame to ‘the west’. Pointless.

        They can join because they feel threatened but usually some rational strategic reason should exist.

        I don’t think the argument ‘yea, Russia is waging an open war of aggression for years just two borders away and transformed its economy to a total war economy, hence cannot afford to stop and also is hellbent on “taking from Europe whatever they think is theirs”, but don’t you worry, because there still is another country between you and the warzone’ is either rational or very convincing. So what?

        • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
          12·
          4 days ago

          transformed its economy to a total war economy, hence cannot afford to stop and also is hellbent on “taking from Europe whatever they think is theirs”

          There it is, the first argument for why Austria should be worried.

          but don’t you worry, because there still is another country between you and the warzone’ is either rational or very convincing.

          In bad faith. Article 42 makes Austria a participant of the war the moment Russia attacks one country of the EU.

          Austria could join Nato to be part of a unified command hierarchy. That would make sense. Joining to be more protected if they have to fight long before the war reaches their border doesn’t make sense.

              • Quittenbrot@feddit.orgEnglish
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                4 days ago

                You for example (!) get access to reconnaissance or logistics capabilities that you otherwise, especially as a smaller nation, wouldn’t get.

                Take NATOs AWACS fleet. It enables countries such as the Netherlands, Poland, Denmark but even Germany to have access to AWACS capabilities which they don’t have on their own. Austria has no such thing at all.

                • plyth@feddit.orgEnglish
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                  2 days ago

                  Do they get the raw data or do they get maps that support their orders? This doesn’t look like reason enough to join Nato, especially since they most likely also receive the maps from article 42 cooperation.

                  • Quittenbrot@feddit.orgEnglish
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                    2 days ago

                    You don’t seem to understand how the multinational AWACS component works. The planes are operated and manned by the nations participating in it. They don’t just get passed on some data, they actually collect it. So it looks like this, where a German soldier is working next to two Norwegians aboard one of these planes.

                    since they most likely also receive the maps from article 42 cooperation.

                    Article 42 governs the mutual defence in case of an attack on one of the member states. It doesn’t govern any sort of military cooperation in times of peace. NATO does.

                    This doesn’t look like reason enough to join Nato

                    Of course it doesn’t to you. But then again, let’s be real: what ever will? You entered this discussion with an opinion already set in stone and nothing I or anyone else will say will realistically convince you otherwise. You have more excuses, show more understanding, for Russia’s war against Ukraine than for Austria thinking about discussing entering NATO, so what’s there left to say here?