• dastanktal@lemmy.ml
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    What you’re describing is called dogmatic thinking and it’s not solely the purview of religious thinkers.

    I know a number of people who are pushing dogmatic view points as atheists, as democrats, as republicans, as just standard people.

    I mean, even what you’re asserting here is a dogmatic viewpoint of the many new gen atheists. There’s no study or proof that shows that religious thinkers don’t think about morality the same way that secular thinkers think about morality or that religious thinkers are any more dogmatic than their secular counterparts.

    People have a tendency to do awful shit when they think they’re not being watched. You’re just describing the average person.

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      I’m more trying to drill down that when you pass judgement off to a deity or religious leader you tend to do less introspection. When your moral judge is yourself you are never really alone.

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        I don’t necessarily think what you’re describing here is people passing off judgment more than it is just your average tribalism.

        People tend to encircle the wagons when a leader of their community is attacked, whether fairly or not. And that’s just sort of a natural human tendency. I mean, we’re seeing this with Trump, but we also see this with AOC and Bernie Sanders as well.

        I think it applies here, and I think it’s why the reasoning is so bad because it’s post-adhoc reasoning as most people simply just get defensive when their leader is “attacked”.

        I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m just saying that the phenomenon you’re describing is much bigger of a problem than just religion. It tends to be with any groups that people form.

        I do agree with you though, that I do wish people would drill down into their own morality more often to discover what they are comfortable with and what they are not comfortable with and to really ask questions on why they have the believe what they believe.