You clearly don’t know much about the sport. Women’s net is far lower because there’s a significant physical power difference between men and women. It’s not just about average height.
Sure. There are differences in musculature and such. But after a period of hormone therapy, those muscular differences disappear. When this is pointed out, transphobes inevitably move the goalposts and start talking about larger bone/frame size. Or they’ll spread lies about how trans women must have larger frames and thus be a danger to their cis peers. Well here’s this cis woman, with a massive frame size, who could utterly stomp all over the vast majority of trans female athletes. And she’s allowed to play.
But people just make ignorant assumptions and assume that the athletic performance of trans women is anything remotely like the athletic performance of cis men. They start with that conclusion and work backwards from there.
Well then you’d have to allow for added criteria that this fictional transgender person do tests to corroborate that they don’t have an unfair advantage over their peers.
I have literally nothing against trans people but there have been at least one case where a trans person had an exaggerated unfair advantage. This case of one “Lia Thomas”, who went from 462 in male rankings to 1 in female rankings. So yeah, I do believe that these extra controls should be performed.
And even if you could prove there was some advantage in swimming events, why would you immediately go to the bigoted solution of banning people from competing? That’s what makes this so clear that this isn’t about sports, it’s about bigotry. If you can prove that trans women have some advantage in individual swimming events, fine, give them a handicap to cancel it out. That way you can still respect everyone’s human rights and dignity, even if you do prove that there is some advantage.
But you have never once in your entire life seen a Republican politician propose using handicaps rather than bigoted bans. Because it’s not about fairness, it’s about bigotry.
I’d have to read it more carefully but it does seem that the article you shared is right. I think I should research the topic a lot more to have a better understanding of when it’s fair or not to let a trans person compete. Perhaps it’s not unfair at all and I’ve been falsely led to believe that it is by the media I’ve watched.
And even if you could prove there was some advantage in swimming events, why would you immediately go to the bigoted solution of banning people from competing?
To rephrase your question: “why would you ban someone from competing if they have an unfair advantage?”. Do I really need to answer that? It’s not about being bigoted or not, it’s about being fair.
But you have never once in your entire life seen a Republican politician propose using handicaps rather than bigoted bans. Because it’s not about fairness, it’s about bigotry.
Don’t make this about US politics. I’m not or want to be a US citizen. My comments are not due to a US Republican/Democratic/Whatever bias. If there’s a bias, it’s my own. Don’t complain about people putting others in boxes and then turn around and do the exact same thing.
You clearly don’t know much about the sport. Women’s net is far lower because there’s a significant physical power difference between men and women. It’s not just about average height.
Sure. There are differences in musculature and such. But after a period of hormone therapy, those muscular differences disappear. When this is pointed out, transphobes inevitably move the goalposts and start talking about larger bone/frame size. Or they’ll spread lies about how trans women must have larger frames and thus be a danger to their cis peers. Well here’s this cis woman, with a massive frame size, who could utterly stomp all over the vast majority of trans female athletes. And she’s allowed to play.
But people just make ignorant assumptions and assume that the athletic performance of trans women is anything remotely like the athletic performance of cis men. They start with that conclusion and work backwards from there.
Well then you’d have to allow for added criteria that this fictional transgender person do tests to corroborate that they don’t have an unfair advantage over their peers.
I have literally nothing against trans people but there have been at least one case where a trans person had an exaggerated unfair advantage. This case of one “Lia Thomas”, who went from 462 in male rankings to 1 in female rankings. So yeah, I do believe that these extra controls should be performed.
You’re repeating right wing propaganda. Here’s a breakdown of Thomas’s actual performance before she was hounded out of competition:
https://www.pinkmantaray.com/resources/lia
And even if you could prove there was some advantage in swimming events, why would you immediately go to the bigoted solution of banning people from competing? That’s what makes this so clear that this isn’t about sports, it’s about bigotry. If you can prove that trans women have some advantage in individual swimming events, fine, give them a handicap to cancel it out. That way you can still respect everyone’s human rights and dignity, even if you do prove that there is some advantage.
But you have never once in your entire life seen a Republican politician propose using handicaps rather than bigoted bans. Because it’s not about fairness, it’s about bigotry.
I’d have to read it more carefully but it does seem that the article you shared is right. I think I should research the topic a lot more to have a better understanding of when it’s fair or not to let a trans person compete. Perhaps it’s not unfair at all and I’ve been falsely led to believe that it is by the media I’ve watched.
To rephrase your question: “why would you ban someone from competing if they have an unfair advantage?”. Do I really need to answer that? It’s not about being bigoted or not, it’s about being fair.
Don’t make this about US politics. I’m not or want to be a US citizen. My comments are not due to a US Republican/Democratic/Whatever bias. If there’s a bias, it’s my own. Don’t complain about people putting others in boxes and then turn around and do the exact same thing.