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    Nobody was positive about Bush, Bush started the slippery slope Trump is on now, for instance the war in Iraq was wildly unpopular, and the comment that if you aren’t with us you are against us was disgusting, considering the war was based on false intelligence, which was reveled already at the time.

    Biden was at best a mediocre president, and he too made weird comments like USA will always stand by Ukraine at the same time Trump behaved as a Russian asset, and could possibly win the election. Still Trump has taken it to new lows in everything which even Bush didn’t, and USA was also very unpopular after Bush. But Trump is breaking agreements left and right and both politically and economically attacking allies for rational reason. Neither Bush nor Biden did anything remotely close to that.
    Trump and Maga is really a new low in USA in so many ways, and even if Trump had a foreign policy of business as usual, he is obviously dangerous for his fascist policies, that would 100% eventually flow over to foreign affairs.

    But that besides the point I was trying to make above. You claimed it was mostly about being an export economy competing with China, I think I demonstrated that that is too simplistic.

    Maybe the simpler point I could have made is that everybody competes with China.

    But how you can even think of comparing Trump with Biden is beyond me, those are so different in almost every aspect that it’s ridiculous to make that comparison IMO.
    I bet if there’s a comparable poll from 2 years ago, USA would have much more support back then.

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      Nobody was positive about Bush

      Incidentally, the 9/11 Responder and Survivor Health Funding Correction Act did not pass until 2023.

      We are flush with Bush hagiographies.

      Maybe the simpler point I could have made is that everybody competes with China.

      They’re the single largest manufacturing economy in the world. And they’re on the cutting edge of a host of modern technical fields.

      Vanishingly few economies compete with China in any material way (Japan, India, Korea, maybe France and Brazil if we’re being generous). They’re a global wholesaler for everyone else.

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        Obviously some Americans liked him since he was elected twice, but nobody outside USA liked Bush.
        And when I write nobody, obviously I don’t mean that literally, but Bush was a very disliked president outside USA.

        Vanishingly few economies compete with China in any material way

        That’s a very weird claim, especially since you mention cars. Europe and China are in very steep competition also on cars. Countries highly affected by this area alone are: Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Czechia, Sweden, Netherlands, and UK. That means ALL the major economies of Europe are competing with China.

        IDK if you are American, things may look different over there, you seem pretty ignorant of what happens in the rest of the world.

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          nobody outside USA liked Bush.

          Blair defends Iraq war and praises Bush

          Sept. 7, 2010

          You can find similar pledges of support and friendship from Shinzo Abe, Vicente Fox and Felipe Calderon, Steven Harper, John Howard, Nicolas Sarkozy, Vladimir Putiny… Practically every conservative government leader of the War on Terror era was expressing support for Bush late into his second term and beyond.

          Europe and China are in very steep competition also on cars.

          The Shift of German Car Parts Manufacturing to China Explained

          Oops. It’s all China.

          IDK if you are American, things may look different over there

          It’s not, that’s the joke. The American business model of buying from the cheapest producer and then spending all your money on branding/marketing is everywhere.

          Both Volkswagen and Ford parts are coming from the same plants. Possibly made by the same exact machinists. The only thing you’re paying a premium for is the ad reads.