• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    That would necessary, yes. Voting doesn’t preclude working against the fucked system. It means if your plans to alter or overthrow the fucked system don’t go through in time, you get the less bad option of the choices presented.

    Voting takes a few moments of your time, not a lifetime dedication to the grind. Voting is a strategic maneuver, not a love letter.

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      Would you yell at the people who refused to vote for killing your mom and tell them it’s their fault both your parents are dead now?

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        Abso-fucking-lutely I would, what kind of question is that? What kind of ghoul would choose to kill both of my parents? There were only two fucking options, it’s not rocket science. They would be 100% guilty of killing my father.

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          So we agree, you have no red lines. Every election is a political race to the bottom and everyone’s rights are negotiable.

          Only difference is you think that’s a good thing and I think it’s a bad thing.

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            I mean, if you thought that the general election was the only political action of note in a democracy, that would be true? But uh, those of us who participate in broader society, or even just bother to fucking show up to the primaries, know that by the time of the general election, much of the work to change positions is already finished, and all that’s actually left is the final clash between the coalitions which have been cobbled together by activists.

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              Primaries? What primaries?

              But also, isn’t this meme you posted pretty ridiculous considering you admit that you would cast a vote to put trans people in camps if the situation was right?

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                The primaries that are held every two years to decide nominations for Dem candidates, wherein some marginal percentage of people show up and the ones that do are overwhelmingly crusty old centrist ghouls because young progressives, I suppose, think they have better things to do?

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                    Primaries did happen in 2024, which is how the whole ‘uncommitted’ movement came about. The issue is that no one of substance ran because Biden was still seen as the best shot at defeating Trump - an idea in no small part peddled by Biden, mind you.

                    No one wanted to vote for Magic Crystal Lady, and Cenk attempting to run despite being a naturalized citizen was a farce.