This is exactly right. I frequently call these extremists right wingers because that’s basically what their attitudes amount to. They are right: liberalism leads to fascism. Capitalism is obviously a problem that needs abolishing. These are all things socialists believe because we’re socialists.
The problem is that harm reduction is no small thing. It’s not avoiding a scrape on the knee or having a pool instead of a hose. We’re talking about real human beings who are suffering, to paraphrase Chomsky. How privileged do you need to be to think it’s hardcore communists or nothing?
Everyone understands that in life compromises may be necessary, but I’m worried that you’re representing a position that already failed. If you’re trying to say, hey, these people should have voted for Kamala Harris, then my response is that Kamala Harris should have learned. From Hillary Clinton. If the candidate is that bad, they are going to lose votes, and it is 100% their fault. If you’re running a failed campaign for the second time, you deserve what you get.
And it’s tempting to blame the stay home people or the third party voters, but the numbers show that if Harris had taken a stance against genocide, she might have won the election. Obviously we’ll never know because there’s no way to actually measure that policy change other than doing it, but it sure would have been exciting to find out.
I think this is incredibly obvious, but somehow people keep pretending it’s not clear… It is possible for a candidate to have left-wing values, to express them openly, to want things that are better for the average worker like strict labor laws or increased unions or real environmental regulation or anti-monopoly regulation or anti-billionaire regulation, a candidate can have clear views on those issues and still be in a position where they need to make compromises on specific legislation. The voters understand that, the voters are generally amenable to that. But many voters are 100% opposed to candidates that don’t have any values to begin with. Because we know these valueless candidates are worthless pieces of shit. They are guaranteed to give us nothing because they believe in nothing.
My problem with these people is that voting 3rd party or not voting doesn’t help Gaza. It is not a plan.
Harris said she was pro-Israel, but she would have given a damn what the liberal base thinks and the liberal base wants the deaths to stop. Harris could have been influenced by the left. That would have been a plausible strategy worth pursuing
Trump doesn’t give a shit what anyone who hasn’t bribed him and loves raping others thinks. There is no way for the left to influence anything now. If Trump can, he will make money putting all of us into camps.
The left not only tears itself apart but is also allergic to effective planning. It’s some weird kink where they want to be absolutely powerless while screaming about all the things others must do.
How privileged do you need to be to think it’s hardcore communists or nothing?
The sad thing is, while many of them are privileged twits, some aren’t. Some are legitimately oppressed, but have been sucked into a weird martyrdom culture of perfection or death, or been fascinated by the bizarre idea of accelerationism - that if things just get a little bit worse, they’ll magically get way better.
It is, unfortunately, a timeless human notion, as millenarian movements throughout history have shown. And as millenarian movements throughout history have shown, it is also a disastrous way of thinking that leads to immense suffering for no gain.
This is exactly right. I frequently call these extremists right wingers because that’s basically what their attitudes amount to. They are right: liberalism leads to fascism. Capitalism is obviously a problem that needs abolishing. These are all things socialists believe because we’re socialists.
The problem is that harm reduction is no small thing. It’s not avoiding a scrape on the knee or having a pool instead of a hose. We’re talking about real human beings who are suffering, to paraphrase Chomsky. How privileged do you need to be to think it’s hardcore communists or nothing?
Everyone understands that in life compromises may be necessary, but I’m worried that you’re representing a position that already failed. If you’re trying to say, hey, these people should have voted for Kamala Harris, then my response is that Kamala Harris should have learned. From Hillary Clinton. If the candidate is that bad, they are going to lose votes, and it is 100% their fault. If you’re running a failed campaign for the second time, you deserve what you get.
And it’s tempting to blame the stay home people or the third party voters, but the numbers show that if Harris had taken a stance against genocide, she might have won the election. Obviously we’ll never know because there’s no way to actually measure that policy change other than doing it, but it sure would have been exciting to find out.
I think this is incredibly obvious, but somehow people keep pretending it’s not clear… It is possible for a candidate to have left-wing values, to express them openly, to want things that are better for the average worker like strict labor laws or increased unions or real environmental regulation or anti-monopoly regulation or anti-billionaire regulation, a candidate can have clear views on those issues and still be in a position where they need to make compromises on specific legislation. The voters understand that, the voters are generally amenable to that. But many voters are 100% opposed to candidates that don’t have any values to begin with. Because we know these valueless candidates are worthless pieces of shit. They are guaranteed to give us nothing because they believe in nothing.
My problem with these people is that voting 3rd party or not voting doesn’t help Gaza. It is not a plan.
Harris said she was pro-Israel, but she would have given a damn what the liberal base thinks and the liberal base wants the deaths to stop. Harris could have been influenced by the left. That would have been a plausible strategy worth pursuing
Trump doesn’t give a shit what anyone who hasn’t bribed him and loves raping others thinks. There is no way for the left to influence anything now. If Trump can, he will make money putting all of us into camps.
The left not only tears itself apart but is also allergic to effective planning. It’s some weird kink where they want to be absolutely powerless while screaming about all the things others must do.
The sad thing is, while many of them are privileged twits, some aren’t. Some are legitimately oppressed, but have been sucked into a weird martyrdom culture of perfection or death, or been fascinated by the bizarre idea of accelerationism - that if things just get a little bit worse, they’ll magically get way better.
It is, unfortunately, a timeless human notion, as millenarian movements throughout history have shown. And as millenarian movements throughout history have shown, it is also a disastrous way of thinking that leads to immense suffering for no gain.