The work has to be done regardless and we don’t let silly things such as what’s legal and illegal stop us from doing such work.
It would be better not to work undercover but as I said before there’s no guarantee under either political Administration about the right for a radical group to assemble wouldn’t be restricted so your point is moot.
You’re neglect of doing literally any other work other than electoral advocacy it’s part of the reason the United States is in this mess and a major reason why the fascists are in the White House.
It would be better not to work undercover but as I said before there’s no guarantee under either political Administration about the right for a radical group to assemble wouldn’t be restricted so your point is moot.
And the fact you don’t care means that you will be limited in what you can do. That makes your movement moot and not serious.
You’re neglect of doing literally any other work other than electoral advocacy it’s part of the reason the United States is in this mess and a major reason why the fascists are in the White House.
Again. I never said elections are the only think. I am saying that they are important.
Well those freedom fighters al had a political party to set terms with their opponents and organize tangible material gains for supporters. Your lack of voting means you don’t have that DNC or 3rd party, so yeah you are not a serious freedom fighter, nor are you working to have a true organization.
They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren’t solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn’t save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.
I’ve also never said that you shouldn’t vote for third party or work with third party only that you shouldn’t waste a ton of time with parties focused on electoralism.
It’s wonderful to be told what I mean over and over and over again when I’ve said quite clearly what I meant
They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren’t solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn’t save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.
100% and because of that they had leadership and structure to start their revolution. A thing you never will because you won’t show up to vote and build out the movement. Tankies are not serious about the material conditions and getting results.
The work has to be done regardless and we don’t let silly things such as what’s legal and illegal stop us from doing such work.
It would be better not to work undercover but as I said before there’s no guarantee under either political Administration about the right for a radical group to assemble wouldn’t be restricted so your point is moot.
You’re neglect of doing literally any other work other than electoral advocacy it’s part of the reason the United States is in this mess and a major reason why the fascists are in the White House.
And the fact you don’t care means that you will be limited in what you can do. That makes your movement moot and not serious.
Again. I never said elections are the only think. I am saying that they are important.
Yeah I have a lot of historical Freedom Fighter groups that would disagree with your premise. In particular the ANC would like a word.
As would the Bolsheviks
Well those freedom fighters al had a political party to set terms with their opponents and organize tangible material gains for supporters. Your lack of voting means you don’t have that DNC or 3rd party, so yeah you are not a serious freedom fighter, nor are you working to have a true organization.
They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren’t solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn’t save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.
I’ve also never said that you shouldn’t vote for third party or work with third party only that you shouldn’t waste a ton of time with parties focused on electoralism.
It’s wonderful to be told what I mean over and over and over again when I’ve said quite clearly what I meant
100% and because of that they had leadership and structure to start their revolution. A thing you never will because you won’t show up to vote and build out the movement. Tankies are not serious about the material conditions and getting results.
Yeah sure if you keep repeating the line about “tankies” not taking things seriously somebody will believe you.
Somebody doesn’t understand what local organization is.
Well, when i see tankies being serious about the reality that the most vulnerable is facing then i will see them as a serious group.
Lol I will let my comrades know that locally organizing doesn’t count as political action. They will get a good laugh from that