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minus-squarefrankPodmore@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6arrow-down5·2 years agoNeither of your counter examples works. ‘Stealing’ your bike back isn’t stealing; execution isn’t murder, even if you agree with it.
minus-squareKevonLooney@lemm.eelinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down1·2 years agoThe only difference between them is society is ok with one and dislikes the other. That’s the whole point. If “stealing” your own bike isn’t stealing, then rejecting the intolerant isn’t intolerance.
minus-squarefrankPodmore@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down2·2 years agoNo, stealing your own bike just is not stealing. It’s yours. By definition, you cannot steal something that belongs to you.
minus-squareKevonLooney@lemm.eelinkfedilinkarrow-up4arrow-down2·2 years agoThat’s what I said. You are trying to be confusing, but only confusing yourself.
minus-squarefrankPodmore@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down2·1 year agoNo, the equivalent to your suggestion would be to argue that, by stealing, you waive your own property rights. Manifestly, this is not the case. I’d be happy to continue this conversation with you if you can do so politely.
Neither of your counter examples works. ‘Stealing’ your bike back isn’t stealing; execution isn’t murder, even if you agree with it.
The only difference between them is society is ok with one and dislikes the other. That’s the whole point. If “stealing” your own bike isn’t stealing, then rejecting the intolerant isn’t intolerance.
No, stealing your own bike just is not stealing. It’s yours. By definition, you cannot steal something that belongs to you.
That’s what I said. You are trying to be confusing, but only confusing yourself.
No, the equivalent to your suggestion would be to argue that, by stealing, you waive your own property rights. Manifestly, this is not the case.
I’d be happy to continue this conversation with you if you can do so politely.