• Tomassci@sh.itjust.works
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        2 days ago

        Sonetimes antisemitism means just that, antisemitism. In here I struggle to find a sign that Sanders wants Mamdani to decrease the antizionist rhetoric in any way, I can only see trying to make sure Mamdani can navigate the landscape and try not to present himself as antisemitic.Again, if you think you can’t be antizionist without being antisemitic, you have the zionist worldview, except inverted.

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          In here I struggle to find a sign that Sanders wants Mamdani to decrease the antizionist rhetoric in any way

          I don’t. I struggle to find Mamdani saying anything antisemitic. Can you present me that?

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            Does your brain run on 1-bit architecture that you can’t see the world in anything that’s not black’n’white?

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            3 days ago

            The same thing I told you in the other thread you made about this.

            He is saying to make sure you are clear about why you are criticizing Israel so it doesn’t get interpreted as antisemitic.

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                It means exactly what it means. He didn’t say stop doing it. You’re really reaching to make it fit your narrative. Luckily nobody is buying into it.

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            Sanders, who is Jewish, urged Mamdani to be cautious about how he approaches talking about Israel. Both are critics of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel’s handling of its war in Gaza.

            Ahead of the trip, Mamdani told business leaders in New York that he would discourage the use of the phrase “globalize the intifada.” Mamdani, who has not used the phrase himself, has said he believes the phrase to be a rallying cry for Palestinian human rights and refused to condemn its use when asked during his primary campaign.

            According to the person familiar with their conversation, Sanders told Mamdani he had to do a better job explaining that his criticism is not antisemitic and to not let himself seem like he’s minimizing the fear Jews in New York and elsewhere feel from the threat of hate against them.

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                He’s warning Mamdani that the pro-genocide people will do everything they can to twist his words and paint him as hostile to Jews rather than to Israel’s genocide of Palestinians. He’s advising him to be more explicit about this distinction because pro-Israel propagandists are already trying to portray him as antisemitic, as they always do. He’s advising Mamdani: there’s an attack coming here that you need to get ahead of. He’s not endorsing the attack or saying that it’s justified. He’s not blaming Mamdani for bringing this attack upon himself.

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                  Pro genocides will always make controversies about any statements supporting palestine and opposing isrsel. Zohran is already very careful

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                  No he is implying that Zohran is not doing a good job of making a distinction between Israel and Judaism.

                  By the way Bernie Sanders is a Zionist who supports the existence of the Israeli Apartheid.

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                    2 days ago

                    No he is implying that Zohran is not doing a good job of making a distinction between Israel and Judaism.

                    And why is that bad? Shouldn’t we, as antizionists, try to decouple from antisemitism as much, both for optics and for the fact that antisemitism sucks?

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        No. According to the article, Sanders talks about antisemitism and the fears of jews in New York. You could see ‘carefully addressing topics about Isreal’ as pushing him pro-isreal, but also as being diplomatic. It is not fair to put Sanders is the genocide camp because of his faith.