“We didn’t promise to make an extraordinary release of evidence to the public for PR reasons”
This proposed release isn’t even the ‘right thing’ to do, it’s just yet another thing that the GOP promised and pulled back on because they realized it might hurt them - in this case, might hurt them because probably a few of their higher ups or donors are on that list.
I disagree. I think if they made those lists public it would be impossible not to go after them. Not by everyone mind you, but some people would. Whether it’s just ambitious young prosecutors or Mobs with pitchforks. I don’t really care either way. Certainly it’s going after the more than anything that has been done so far.
However and I want to say this again the Biden Administration didn’t go after a single person. I don’t care how much you hate Donald Trump you shouldn’t defend that. They’re all protecting pedophiles. That’s not okay. The idea that political blinders causes you to justify that is a problem. Children shouldn’t have to be raped with impunity so that your team wins. This Thread has been eye opening in an extremely depressing way for me.
I disagree. I think if they made those lists public it would be impossible not to go after them. Not by everyone mind you, but some people would. Whether it’s just ambitious young prosecutors or Mobs with pitchforks. I don’t really care either way. Certainly it’s going after the more than anything that has been done so far.
Ambitious young prosecutors now dealing with the very credible issue that the most anti-pedophile potential jurors are now easy targets for dismissal during jury selection by the defense team for the issue of pre-existing bias by release of evidence related to the case?
However and I want to say this again the Biden Administration didn’t go after a single person.
Would you like to remind me which administration locked up Ghislaine Maxwell?
I think it was pretty clear I’m talking about the clients. Though if you’ll remember going after Maxwell somehow didn’t involve discussing her clients. That was hidden during their going after her. Which is interesting isn’t it?
Dealing with potential bias from jurors is a part of the legal system. One they’ve dealt with many times in many ways. This isn’t the 1800s. The news exists. TVs exist. Computers exist. The Internet exists. It’s not a new problem . It’s not something that is impossible to deal with. So that’s just a completely fallacious argument. And frankly if for some reason they couldn’t do it because of that well that’s what the pitchforks are for.
I think it was pretty clear I’m talking about the clients. Though if you’ll remember going after Maxwell somehow didn’t involve discussing her clients. That was hidden during their going after her. Which is interesting isn’t it?
Are you being fucking serious right now.
Dealing with potential bias from jurors is a part of the legal system. One they’ve dealt with many times in many ways. This isn’t the 1800s. The news exists. TVs exist. Computers exist. The Internet exists. It’s not a new problem . So that’s just a completely fallacious argument.
Yes, and questioning jurors about their exposure to media evidence relevant to the case is a very well known way of weeding out people who’ve been influenced by public exposure of cases before they go to trial by the defense.
And frankly if for some reason they couldn’t do it because of that well that’s what the pitchforks are for.
So it’s just your contention that trials are impossible in the Modern Age? That nothing that’s been covered by the media can ever be brought to trial? That’s really where you are here? That’s why we can’t prosecute pedophiles and sex traffickers? Really?
No, my contention is that making evidence public before a trial is damaging to any attempts to prosecute people on the strength of that particular evidence, and thus making evidence public as a publicity stunt is not an action meaningfully ‘going after’ the people implicated by that evidence
“We didn’t promise to make an extraordinary release of evidence to the public for PR reasons”
This proposed release isn’t even the ‘right thing’ to do, it’s just yet another thing that the GOP promised and pulled back on because they realized it might hurt them - in this case, might hurt them because probably a few of their higher ups or donors are on that list.
Just want to confirm here, you’re saying that going after sex traffickers and child rapist isn’t the right thing to do?
I’m saying the release of the files to the public isn’t ‘going after’ sex traffickers and child rapists.
I disagree. I think if they made those lists public it would be impossible not to go after them. Not by everyone mind you, but some people would. Whether it’s just ambitious young prosecutors or Mobs with pitchforks. I don’t really care either way. Certainly it’s going after the more than anything that has been done so far.
However and I want to say this again the Biden Administration didn’t go after a single person. I don’t care how much you hate Donald Trump you shouldn’t defend that. They’re all protecting pedophiles. That’s not okay. The idea that political blinders causes you to justify that is a problem. Children shouldn’t have to be raped with impunity so that your team wins. This Thread has been eye opening in an extremely depressing way for me.
Ambitious young prosecutors now dealing with the very credible issue that the most anti-pedophile potential jurors are now easy targets for dismissal during jury selection by the defense team for the issue of pre-existing bias by release of evidence related to the case?
Would you like to remind me which administration locked up Ghislaine Maxwell?
I think it was pretty clear I’m talking about the clients. Though if you’ll remember going after Maxwell somehow didn’t involve discussing her clients. That was hidden during their going after her. Which is interesting isn’t it?
Dealing with potential bias from jurors is a part of the legal system. One they’ve dealt with many times in many ways. This isn’t the 1800s. The news exists. TVs exist. Computers exist. The Internet exists. It’s not a new problem . It’s not something that is impossible to deal with. So that’s just a completely fallacious argument. And frankly if for some reason they couldn’t do it because of that well that’s what the pitchforks are for.
Are you being fucking serious right now.
Yes, and questioning jurors about their exposure to media evidence relevant to the case is a very well known way of weeding out people who’ve been influenced by public exposure of cases before they go to trial by the defense.
Oh, like the ‘pitchforks’ that came out the last time people were credibly linked to Epstein, during the Biden administration, no less? How did that fucking go, again?
Christ.
So it’s just your contention that trials are impossible in the Modern Age? That nothing that’s been covered by the media can ever be brought to trial? That’s really where you are here? That’s why we can’t prosecute pedophiles and sex traffickers? Really?
No, my contention is that making evidence public before a trial is damaging to any attempts to prosecute people on the strength of that particular evidence, and thus making evidence public as a publicity stunt is not an action meaningfully ‘going after’ the people implicated by that evidence