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Today is a big day for the future of e-bikes in New York City. A hearing starts at 10 a.m. You can file a written comment until 5 p.m. You can also send an email to [email protected] until 5 p.m
Okay but the fact that you can say this without it being a joke proves how stupid this limit is.
Not at all no. This used to be a sort of self regulating system. Peoples ability to go fast with muscles alone usually goes away around the same point where their cognitive abilities become a hazard to the rest of traffic. The difference is that most young people could easily go 18mph or more while old people wouldnt even get past 10 without e-bikes. Basically e-bikes allow people to go beyond their limits. While that sounds cool, in this case it isnt.
Yeah, much better for old uncoordinated people to go back to using cars.
Said literally nobody. 15mph is plenty fast for getting around :) The more important part is making biking more attractive by building better infrastructure for it and actively restricting car traffic by slowing it down or diverting it out of cities.
So limit cars to 15 mph. I’m down.
Or do you just hate bikes?
Whataboutism
No. It would be like getting on a half pipe with knee pads but no helmet.
I like being alive and not being rammed by a 200kg combination of e-bike + human at speeds higher than 25kmh while riding my bike to work.
I like not being rammed by 2-10 tons of steel and lithium while i cross the street. Yeah. Lets limit cars to 15mph.
If you don’t do that, but do limit ebikes, you’re just an auto industry shill.
And you’re a troll, this isn’t a zero sum game, making bikes safe matters, you complete weirdo.
But making cars safe doesnt.
So you’re just incentivizing a much more dangerous behavior. You are the problem.
The thing with pedelecs and 25km/h is complicated™
It probably was always possible to drive them as moped/mofa, don’t think it was specified what kind of motor.
Pedal assist doesn’t just stop at 25km/h, it also decreases with higher speeds.
But the point is that pedelecs effectively count as bike and not motorized vehicles. That means somebody younger than 15 can drive them, but you have to be at least 10 to be allowed to drive on streets/roads. Helmets are only mandatory for <12 years old kids on bikes.
If you’re not limiting cars the same, you’re just anti bike. Fuck off carbrain.
It’s the same. Those are motor limits, not driving speed limits. If you don’t meet them you just have to follow the stricter regulations.
Theoretically if you get an e-bike classified as a motorbike you could do 200 km/h on the motor way, just not on bike lanes. It just needs to be registerd, insuranced, have a proper motorbike license, wear helmet etc … like it’s the case with a car where it’s seat belt instead of helmet.
The speed limits are the same, I still have to follow regular 30km/h speed limits with my pedelec when I could do 45km/h downhill otherwise. Unless there are special signs somewhere, but so far I’ve only seen those for trucks/buses. Bikes are also entitled to street parking and parking lots since those are rules for all vehicles, it’s just impracticable. There is only a general rule to park space-saving.
It’s not the same. Not exactly.
And, again, if we wanted to ditch cars completelh and have a lane for those alone, that would be cool, but we dont. So everything but cars is ghettoized, and im not okay stratifying tgat while cars are still in use.