Watching Mamdani interview Trump voters in NYC really woke me. Tired of all the hateful takes on these people. They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren’t paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.
They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren’t paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.
And yet after 4 years of Trump not actually doing jack or shit to help them, and promising to do worse the next time, they voted for his ass again. Voting on emotions and not on policy (on both sides of the isle) is exactly why we are where we are today and it’s not an excuse. People need to educate themselves. You want to remain ignorant and vote based on your feelings? Fine, but don’t call me hateful when I call you a moron. I’m not doing it to be mean, I’m doing it because you are a moron.
True now as it was 8 years ago.
“True”. Yeah. As someone born, raised, and currently living in a shit hole red state I can say that there is a grain of truth in that article, but homeboy misses the entire forest because he’s jerking off the trees. Let’s take a look at some of his claims.
We country folk are programmed to hate the prissy “elites”.
Absolutely that is a fact, let’s just ignore for a second that the vast majority of people in cities are struggling to survive just like they are and can hardly be described as ‘elites’ but ok. Who’s fault is their programming? Do ‘elites’ go around poor rural areas filling cracker minds up with how much they hate them or do their preachers, bosses and neighbors talk shit about ‘city folk’ because they are different and scary? They may get a little of column A by reading ‘big city’ newspapers or reading hot takes online, but they get a shit ton of column B shoved down their throats on the daily.
Blue islands in an ocean of red. The cities are less than 4 percent of the land mass, but 62 percent of the population and easily 99 percent of the popular culture. Our movies, shows, songs, and news all radiate out from those blue islands.
And if you live in the red, that fucking sucks.
Ok? The entertainment industry is a business just like any other, is anyone surprised they tend to focus on the 62% over the 38%? That wouldn’t make a hell of a lot of sense financially.
Also that 99% figure is an extreme amount of hyperbole. It might be 99% if you ignore the Billion+ dollar industry of folks singing about Shooting up Jukeboxes and how Sexy Tractors are, hell even Beyoncé, Ed Sheeran, Hootie, and Post Malone are making country albums. If you ignore hundreds of millions of Peckerwoods who get their ‘information’ from Fox “News”. If you ignore extremely popular right wing propaganda like Yellowstone and Landman and so on. There is plenty of content for ‘country folk’ to enjoy.
I never saw a family member, friend, or classmate be mean to the actual black people we had in town. We worked with them, played video games with them, waved to them when they passed. What I did hear was several million comments about how if you ever ventured into the city, winding up in the “wrong neighborhood” meant you’d get dragged from your car, raped, and burned alive. Looking back, I think the idea was that the local minorities were fine … as long as they acted exactly like us.
Oh well that’s all fine and cool then, It’s not racist if you wave to your local assimilated black person but talk about what savage murderers inner city blacks are.
The is a grain of truth in that if a black person living in such an area doesn’t act ‘too black’ or as was the case in my hometown if the one black family that was allowed to live there just so happened to have the star quarterback of the high school football team among it’s members, they are sometimes tolerated. These are the same enlightened people who told my mom that she had to kick my little sister out of the house because she had a mixed race baby and they ‘already had one group of blacks in town’, as if there was a quota.
Blacks riot, Muslims set bombs, gays spread AIDS, Mexican cartels behead children, atheists tear down Christmas trees. Meanwhile, those liberal Lena Dunhams in their $5,000-a-month apartments sip wine and say, “But those white Christians are the real problem!”
Holy shit, this sentence is exactly why I have no sympathy for good old fashioned country folk who refuse to pull their heads out of their asses. And yes once again there is a grain of truth here in that is exactly the attitude a lot of them have- but it also misses the point entirely.
Did he ever stop and wonder why the Black folks were rioting or actually give a single fuck about their reasons? No. Did he ever think that just maybe the U.S. Bombing Muslims for a century might have something to do with a couple of terrorists ‘setting bombs’? Did he ever blame all white people or all Christians for the more frequent acts of Terrorism perpetrated by White folks and ‘Christians’? Clearly not. Did he ignore every single news station in the 80’s and 90’s emphasizing the fact that AIDS was NOT a ‘gay disease’ and straight people spread AIDS even more than gay people? Apparently he did. Mexican cartels ‘behead children’, not like the kinder and gentler ‘white’ gangsters who just leave horse heads in your bed, fit you with concrete shoes and put a bullet in the center of your forehead. Did he ever stop and listen to the reasons that liberals gave for why White Christians were a problem? I mean, it’s not like Christians have ever done anything wrong like sexually assault their congregations, treat women as second class citizens, vote in politicians who sucked up to them but were actively making life worse for everyone, including them.
Don’t message me saying all those things I listed are wrong. I know they’re wrong. Or rather, I think they’re wrong, because I now live in a blue county and work for a blue industry.
Sure Jason, don’t strain yourself by actually thinking about whether something is right or wrong, just follow along side with whatever the people around you think. It’s much easier than having an actual opinion.
Try telling that to anybody who lives in Trump country.
They’re getting the shit kicked out of them. I know, I was there.
AND. WHO’S. FUCKING. FAULT. IS. THAT?!? Is it the “Liberal Elites” you have spent the entire article trashing, or is it maybe, JUST MAYBE the fucking politicians they vote for that cut funding for the social safety nets that would help the poorest among you keep their heads above water. Who vote to raise taxes on the poorest Americans so they can give tax breaks to the rich? Who vote to cut funding for education when we already lag far behind the rest of the world in that department? Who vote to ban books and whitewash history, keeping people ignorant of the past and doomed to repeat it? Who have kept the minimum wage at the same abysmal rate for the last 16 years? A minimum wage with half of the purchasing power it had in 1968 when America was supposedly ‘great’?
But no. Ignore reality. Ignore your best interest. Ignore the fact that it’s you who voted in a literal fascist dictator who wipes his ass with the constitution. Blame 'liberal’s for “being mean” to you, and then expect me to have sympathy for that.
Get all of the way the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Assholes Are Heroes
Yes, by all means. Prop up a literal Billionaire who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Who went to Ivy League schools. Who has never worked a day in his motherfucking life. Who has never once even went to a grocery store to do his own shopping. Who has had everything handed to him his whole life. Who is as Christian as Aleister Crowley. A man who is every single bit the ‘elite city folk’ that you just spent so much time trashing, who shares literally none of the values you spent so much time explaining. All because he is a fucking dickhead and hates the same people you do. Don’t stop and ask yourself if someone like that could possibly know or care about what it’s like to be a poor working class person. Don’t think about why he might be fighting against the very people who have been trying to help you. Just grab another chaw and grin while the leopard eats your face, and then whine on social media about how this wasn’t what you voted for.
It feels good to dismiss people, to mock them, to write them off as deplorables.
No actually it doesn’t feel good at all. You know what would actually feel really good? If they pulled their heads out of their motherfucking asses and paid attention for once in their life as if their actions mattered. That would feel amazing.
But you might as well take time to try to understand them.
Once more in case you missed it, I was born in Red Country. I was raised here. My family are mostly Trumpers. I understand them all too well, and I can tell you that the criticisms are 100% correct. They are a bunch of ignorant, racist assholes who don’t want to listen to anyone who looks different from them, and that is exactly the problem.
Yup. From the outside, it’s been reasonably obvious since 2007: The current system isn’t working, and the ones who offer to change things are the ones who will actually get the votes.
This became even more apparent post-covid: Biden offered a return to normalcy, while Trump wanted to “fix everything”. You can say what you want about Trump (and I will probably agree with most of it), but he offered something else than the same old neolib system that has failed more and more people every year.
The problem with today’s mainstream politicians is that one side tries to return to Obama era “middle ground” policies while the other side can be summed up by this shamelessly stolen comic:
A sensible politician who wants to win an election needs to understand that “the middle ground” no longer means not stepping on toes. The middle ground these days means shaking up the current system to provide basic necessities for those who have been ignored for decades. People turn fascist for the same reason people turn tankie; when you’re starving and someone promises all the potatoes you can drink, of course that sounds better than the current situation.
I truly hope Mamdani or someone like him gets to appear as more than “ermagerd scary communist” to the right side, because I’m sure most of those who would insta-hate “The left” actually can get behind a lot of the actual policies once they get beyond the politics.
I’m all for rainbow-rights, eco-friendly living, and diversity, but most peoples priorities are a lot more immediate: putting food in the table. Let’s all hope the DNC realizes this.
Was working for hardcore Southern Baptists several years back. They admitted they liked Bernie’s words. Also, they hated George Bush. I’m certain they hate Trump with every fiber of their soul, but they’re brainwashed into hating “socialism”. Smart men! Just can’t get past “liberal bad”.
Tired of all the hateful takes on these people. They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren’t paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.
Sure, I got that the first go around. It was the second time that cemented things for me. Nobody was ignorant of who and what Trump was in 2024. Those are the people I think are hateful bigots willing to burn down the entire country if only it’ll take a few undesirables out with them.
In other words, the other major Trump constituency (aside from conservatives obviously) is gullible people who got swindled.
That wasn’t really a revelation to me and, while I do have some pity for those people, I also think they deserve every bit of hate they get for fucking up so badly that they’ve destroyed the whole country. We are suffering the consequences of their laziness and stupidity, and that almost pisses me off even more than the fuckwads who voted for fascism on purpose.
Also, 1:10 in the video:
There were young voters who didn’t vote for her [Kamala Harris] because of the genocide, and I wouldn’t have voted for her if I did, but I did vote for her, obviously, because I have common sense."
Watching Mamdani interview Trump voters in NYC really woke me. Tired of all the hateful takes on these people. They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren’t paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FcVCYqQNs
If you really want to understand Trump voters, and what we need to do to get progressives in office, have a look:
https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about
True now as it was 8 years ago.
And yet after 4 years of Trump not actually doing jack or shit to help them, and promising to do worse the next time, they voted for his ass again. Voting on emotions and not on policy (on both sides of the isle) is exactly why we are where we are today and it’s not an excuse. People need to educate themselves. You want to remain ignorant and vote based on your feelings? Fine, but don’t call me hateful when I call you a moron. I’m not doing it to be mean, I’m doing it because you are a moron.
“True”. Yeah. As someone born, raised, and currently living in a shit hole red state I can say that there is a grain of truth in that article, but homeboy misses the entire forest because he’s jerking off the trees. Let’s take a look at some of his claims.
Absolutely that is a fact, let’s just ignore for a second that the vast majority of people in cities are struggling to survive just like they are and can hardly be described as ‘elites’ but ok. Who’s fault is their programming? Do ‘elites’ go around poor rural areas filling cracker minds up with how much they hate them or do their preachers, bosses and neighbors talk shit about ‘city folk’ because they are different and scary? They may get a little of column A by reading ‘big city’ newspapers or reading hot takes online, but they get a shit ton of column B shoved down their throats on the daily.
Ok? The entertainment industry is a business just like any other, is anyone surprised they tend to focus on the 62% over the 38%? That wouldn’t make a hell of a lot of sense financially.
Also that 99% figure is an extreme amount of hyperbole. It might be 99% if you ignore the Billion+ dollar industry of folks singing about Shooting up Jukeboxes and how Sexy Tractors are, hell even Beyoncé, Ed Sheeran, Hootie, and Post Malone are making country albums. If you ignore hundreds of millions of Peckerwoods who get their ‘information’ from Fox “News”. If you ignore extremely popular right wing propaganda like Yellowstone and Landman and so on. There is plenty of content for ‘country folk’ to enjoy.
Oh well that’s all fine and cool then, It’s not racist if you wave to your local assimilated black person but talk about what savage murderers inner city blacks are.
The is a grain of truth in that if a black person living in such an area doesn’t act ‘too black’ or as was the case in my hometown if the one black family that was allowed to live there just so happened to have the star quarterback of the high school football team among it’s members, they are sometimes tolerated. These are the same enlightened people who told my mom that she had to kick my little sister out of the house because she had a mixed race baby and they ‘already had one group of blacks in town’, as if there was a quota.
Holy shit, this sentence is exactly why I have no sympathy for good old fashioned country folk who refuse to pull their heads out of their asses. And yes once again there is a grain of truth here in that is exactly the attitude a lot of them have- but it also misses the point entirely.
Did he ever stop and wonder why the Black folks were rioting or actually give a single fuck about their reasons? No. Did he ever think that just maybe the U.S. Bombing Muslims for a century might have something to do with a couple of terrorists ‘setting bombs’? Did he ever blame all white people or all Christians for the more frequent acts of Terrorism perpetrated by White folks and ‘Christians’? Clearly not. Did he ignore every single news station in the 80’s and 90’s emphasizing the fact that AIDS was NOT a ‘gay disease’ and straight people spread AIDS even more than gay people? Apparently he did. Mexican cartels ‘behead children’, not like the kinder and gentler ‘white’ gangsters who just leave horse heads in your bed, fit you with concrete shoes and put a bullet in the center of your forehead. Did he ever stop and listen to the reasons that liberals gave for why White Christians were a problem? I mean, it’s not like Christians have ever done anything wrong like sexually assault their congregations, treat women as second class citizens, vote in politicians who sucked up to them but were actively making life worse for everyone, including them.
Sure Jason, don’t strain yourself by actually thinking about whether something is right or wrong, just follow along side with whatever the people around you think. It’s much easier than having an actual opinion.
AND. WHO’S. FUCKING. FAULT. IS. THAT?!? Is it the “Liberal Elites” you have spent the entire article trashing, or is it maybe, JUST MAYBE the fucking politicians they vote for that cut funding for the social safety nets that would help the poorest among you keep their heads above water. Who vote to raise taxes on the poorest Americans so they can give tax breaks to the rich? Who vote to cut funding for education when we already lag far behind the rest of the world in that department? Who vote to ban books and whitewash history, keeping people ignorant of the past and doomed to repeat it? Who have kept the minimum wage at the same abysmal rate for the last 16 years? A minimum wage with half of the purchasing power it had in 1968 when America was supposedly ‘great’?
But no. Ignore reality. Ignore your best interest. Ignore the fact that it’s you who voted in a literal fascist dictator who wipes his ass with the constitution. Blame 'liberal’s for “being mean” to you, and then expect me to have sympathy for that.
Get all of the way the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Yes, by all means. Prop up a literal Billionaire who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Who went to Ivy League schools. Who has never worked a day in his motherfucking life. Who has never once even went to a grocery store to do his own shopping. Who has had everything handed to him his whole life. Who is as Christian as Aleister Crowley. A man who is every single bit the ‘elite city folk’ that you just spent so much time trashing, who shares literally none of the values you spent so much time explaining. All because he is a fucking dickhead and hates the same people you do. Don’t stop and ask yourself if someone like that could possibly know or care about what it’s like to be a poor working class person. Don’t think about why he might be fighting against the very people who have been trying to help you. Just grab another chaw and grin while the leopard eats your face, and then whine on social media about how this wasn’t what you voted for.
No actually it doesn’t feel good at all. You know what would actually feel really good? If they pulled their heads out of their motherfucking asses and paid attention for once in their life as if their actions mattered. That would feel amazing.
Once more in case you missed it, I was born in Red Country. I was raised here. My family are mostly Trumpers. I understand them all too well, and I can tell you that the criticisms are 100% correct. They are a bunch of ignorant, racist assholes who don’t want to listen to anyone who looks different from them, and that is exactly the problem.
They’re also brainwashed religious fanatics.
Yup. From the outside, it’s been reasonably obvious since 2007: The current system isn’t working, and the ones who offer to change things are the ones who will actually get the votes.
This became even more apparent post-covid: Biden offered a return to normalcy, while Trump wanted to “fix everything”. You can say what you want about Trump (and I will probably agree with most of it), but he offered something else than the same old neolib system that has failed more and more people every year.
The problem with today’s mainstream politicians is that one side tries to return to Obama era “middle ground” policies while the other side can be summed up by this shamelessly stolen comic:
A sensible politician who wants to win an election needs to understand that “the middle ground” no longer means not stepping on toes. The middle ground these days means shaking up the current system to provide basic necessities for those who have been ignored for decades. People turn fascist for the same reason people turn tankie; when you’re starving and someone promises all the potatoes you can drink, of course that sounds better than the current situation.
I truly hope Mamdani or someone like him gets to appear as more than “ermagerd scary communist” to the right side, because I’m sure most of those who would insta-hate “The left” actually can get behind a lot of the actual policies once they get beyond the politics.
I’m all for rainbow-rights, eco-friendly living, and diversity, but most peoples priorities are a lot more immediate: putting food in the table. Let’s all hope the DNC realizes this.
Was working for hardcore Southern Baptists several years back. They admitted they liked Bernie’s words. Also, they hated George Bush. I’m certain they hate Trump with every fiber of their soul, but they’re brainwashed into hating “socialism”. Smart men! Just can’t get past “liberal bad”.
It’s dumb because the root word of liberal is liberty. Which has a lot to do with the government staying out of your fuckin business
Sure, I got that the first go around. It was the second time that cemented things for me. Nobody was ignorant of who and what Trump was in 2024. Those are the people I think are hateful bigots willing to burn down the entire country if only it’ll take a few undesirables out with them.
In other words, the other major Trump constituency (aside from conservatives obviously) is gullible people who got swindled.
That wasn’t really a revelation to me and, while I do have some pity for those people, I also think they deserve every bit of hate they get for fucking up so badly that they’ve destroyed the whole country. We are suffering the consequences of their laziness and stupidity, and that almost pisses me off even more than the fuckwads who voted for fascism on purpose.
Also, 1:10 in the video:
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