Why the hyperbole? Why the binary choice? I have no real interest in defending unfettered capitalism, I argue for strict controls on it with strong social policy. However, you cannot deny that greed advances things very quickly, from shitty things like tiktok to Big Pharma pushing out a new drug that they can charge $10k USD a dose for.
What if…? My man, I would love a Star Trek TNG society where we are all above the pillaging of the Earth and each other for personal gain. But unless you have a plan to radically alter society in the near future your “what if” is fantasy.
But that is where all capitalism eventually flows. There’s a snowball effect to it. As a system, it will always become roughly the same thing. It will always corrupt. It will always break the rules, it will always exploit. That’s the point of it. That’s what it’s for, more than the myths of innovation even if they were true.
cannot deny
Yes i can. You’ve been conned. Your example, Big Pharma doesnt invent drugs. They don’t invest in research. Like, i know you think i mean a small number, and it’s even less than that. New drugs come almost exclusively out of public funding and university labs. It comes from scientists who want to discover and improve the world. Then it gets owned. Sometimes. If it wouldn’t fuck up profits too much.
Do you know the story if why cannabis us illegal in the states?
a fantasy
Substantially less than your fettered capitalism
a plan
Not exactly, but i have principles and outlines, and part of that is not just imposing my will. Organizational technologies. Communication stuff. And there’s lots of cool options at various levels of proof, with roughly the same path to achieving them!
we need to be post scarcity to not be dicks to each other
That simply is not the case. Even in prison, there are solidarities. If you can’t be morally better than the people your society has locked in cages, whether you see them as damaged victims or monsters you cant share a world with, then you are the problem.
There’s a lot of mythology we just accept about how people behave in cisis, and it is more often than not precisely the opposite of the truth.
Dude i fucking gave examples, and had (though did jot cite) sources.
Sorry, by human i mean ‘homo sapiens’ not ‘homo economicus’. Maybe we were just talking about different species. Easy mistake.
simplified how research and funding work
And also pointed out an entirely different system that also did everything you want with none of those same flaws, which did dominate a huge chunk of the world within living memory and still exists some places.
As opposed to your just-so magical thinking that wtote a childrens fairy tale from scratch. I think simplifying for a firum post is quite a bit more honest.
Why the hyperbole? Why the binary choice? I have no real interest in defending unfettered capitalism, I argue for strict controls on it with strong social policy. However, you cannot deny that greed advances things very quickly, from shitty things like tiktok to Big Pharma pushing out a new drug that they can charge $10k USD a dose for.
What if…? My man, I would love a Star Trek TNG society where we are all above the pillaging of the Earth and each other for personal gain. But unless you have a plan to radically alter society in the near future your “what if” is fantasy.
But that is where all capitalism eventually flows. There’s a snowball effect to it. As a system, it will always become roughly the same thing. It will always corrupt. It will always break the rules, it will always exploit. That’s the point of it. That’s what it’s for, more than the myths of innovation even if they were true.
Yes i can. You’ve been conned. Your example, Big Pharma doesnt invent drugs. They don’t invest in research. Like, i know you think i mean a small number, and it’s even less than that. New drugs come almost exclusively out of public funding and university labs. It comes from scientists who want to discover and improve the world. Then it gets owned. Sometimes. If it wouldn’t fuck up profits too much.
Do you know the story if why cannabis us illegal in the states?
Substantially less than your fettered capitalism
Not exactly, but i have principles and outlines, and part of that is not just imposing my will. Organizational technologies. Communication stuff. And there’s lots of cool options at various levels of proof, with roughly the same path to achieving them!
That simply is not the case. Even in prison, there are solidarities. If you can’t be morally better than the people your society has locked in cages, whether you see them as damaged victims or monsters you cant share a world with, then you are the problem.
There’s a lot of mythology we just accept about how people behave in cisis, and it is more often than not precisely the opposite of the truth.
You sidestepped every bit of human nature and imposed your own reality. You ridiculously oversimplified how research and funding work.
Ok man. You’ve got it all sorted out. You got me.
Dude i fucking gave examples, and had (though did jot cite) sources.
Sorry, by human i mean ‘homo sapiens’ not ‘homo economicus’. Maybe we were just talking about different species. Easy mistake.
And also pointed out an entirely different system that also did everything you want with none of those same flaws, which did dominate a huge chunk of the world within living memory and still exists some places.
As opposed to your just-so magical thinking that wtote a childrens fairy tale from scratch. I think simplifying for a firum post is quite a bit more honest.