The liberal establishment’s war on the New York City mayoral candidate reflects panic over a growing left challenge to Zionist orthodoxy and the mainstreaming of Palestine solidarity

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    No, about Katyn and the years of occupation that followed till 89’ actually. And about Holodomor. And about using tanks against civilians. And about a ton of other things that tankies don’t know about because they think the Soviet Union was perfect

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      Ok, so what is your solution? Besides calling everyone to your left a commie?

      Capitalism is no longer working. The status quo is untenable.

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        My solution is to not glorify the Soviet Union as some sort of enlightened country when in reality it was a shithole that killed millions of people.

        Also, don’t put words in my mouth. Just because you think in “tribes” and everyone that doesn’t think exactly like you is your enemy, doesn’t mean other people are just as naive.

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          My solution is to not glorify the Soviet Union as some sort of enlightened country

          Am I doing that, or have you just decided that you hate everyone to your left and only your left and therefore they must be commies?

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            I said "communism as it was in history should evoke a negative reaction. You then jumped in saying what basically amounts to “you are a nazi mad about losing”. I then said "no, I am mad about attrocities done to the various peoples because of the soviet union. To which you then respond “what else are we supposed to do?”

            So:

            1. You are arguing that communism as it was in history shouldn’t invoke a negative reaction

            2. You are calling me a nazi

            3. You are deflecting from the attrocities of communism and going “whatabout capitalism”.

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              You are arguing that communism as it was in history shouldn’t invoke a negative reaction

              If you would prefer that they hadn’t joined the Allies, just say so.

              You are calling me a nazi

              You call people to your left commies. And it’s clear that you consider only one to be evil.

              You are deflecting from the attrocities of communism and going “whatabout capitalism”.

              No, I’m asking what your solution is, as the current situation is untenable. So far your response has been “ur uh commie! Stop talking about the system in which you live and hate the commies!”

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                No I don’t call people “to my left” commies. I even specifically said “Zohran isn’t a communist”. But by all means, keep attacking the strawman that you put up. Doesn’t change the fact that the Soviet Union was a terror state that screwed up several countries and killed millions (and if you need the clarification, millions after WW2 was over). I’m done talking to a wall, have a nice day.

                Edit: and to your point about the Soviet Union joining the allies - I would very much rather they didn’t start the war along with Nazi Germany by invading Poland at the same time, signing a nonagression pact with the Nazis, sending people to gulags where thousands died. But that’s a tiny detail right, who cares that they were one of the two that started it all.

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                  No I don’t call people “to my left” commies. I even specifically said “Zohran isn’t a communist”.

                  And yet, when prompted to offer solutions to the situation the US is in now, your solution was “ZOMG COMMIES.” It’s in this thread. Capitalism got us here, not communism. It’s clear that you have no solutions but don’t like anyone else’s.