That’s simply untrue, show me one example when they weren’t given due process. Even the ones they caught mere feet accross the border would get to see a judge before going back. There was no accidental deportation of citizens or people there legally, and it was an discussion first, deport later scenario.
These are completely different in every way and to compare them being the same is a disservice to everyone.
I agree, there was some form of due process before.
That due process however was mostly a sham. Immigration courts are a show trial. They aren’t part of the judicial branch. The “judges” work for the same guy as the prosecutors.
If the judge doesn’t do as the president likes, they can be fired. Same with the prosecutors. These are shows put on so we can call ourselves a law abiding society.
Immigration courts are severely overburdened. You want to see how shit our whole justice system is have every American start filing frivolous law suits. This is how scientology got its protected status.
Immigration courts have always been kangaroo courts. For example, there’s no right to an attorney, and young children have been made to defend themselves against threat of deportation. That’s not due process by any stretch of the imagination.
To say “there was no accidental deportation of people there legally” is completely absurd. Are you suggesting that not a single immigration court ever made a single mistake?
The “disservice to everyone” is you trying to whitewash the system and pretending that courts that require 6 year olds to defend themselves with no council is somehow a legitimate, fair system, just because the orange man wasn’t the one in charge of it.
And how many of those years were ICE straight up kidnapping people to throw into dungeons?
.5 (so far)
Ask the ICE victims because they were the scary brown people plotting the next 9/11 but never found guilty.
All of them. It was their founding mandate. It’s simply operating more openly and at unimaginable scale this year.
That’s simply untrue, show me one example when they weren’t given due process. Even the ones they caught mere feet accross the border would get to see a judge before going back. There was no accidental deportation of citizens or people there legally, and it was an discussion first, deport later scenario.
These are completely different in every way and to compare them being the same is a disservice to everyone.
Gitmo is a whole other beast.
I agree, there was some form of due process before.
That due process however was mostly a sham. Immigration courts are a show trial. They aren’t part of the judicial branch. The “judges” work for the same guy as the prosecutors.
If the judge doesn’t do as the president likes, they can be fired. Same with the prosecutors. These are shows put on so we can call ourselves a law abiding society.
EDIT: The torture prisons are new however.
Immigration courts are severely overburdened. You want to see how shit our whole justice system is have every American start filing frivolous law suits. This is how scientology got its protected status.
Immigration courts have always been kangaroo courts. For example, there’s no right to an attorney, and young children have been made to defend themselves against threat of deportation. That’s not due process by any stretch of the imagination.
To say “there was no accidental deportation of people there legally” is completely absurd. Are you suggesting that not a single immigration court ever made a single mistake?
The “disservice to everyone” is you trying to whitewash the system and pretending that courts that require 6 year olds to defend themselves with no council is somehow a legitimate, fair system, just because the orange man wasn’t the one in charge of it.
Here’s John Oliver talking about it.