Political parties in the USA can nominate whoever they want to be their nominee. Who they nominate could be either left-wing or right-wing.

The America Party can strategically split the vote and give the Democratic Party a supermajority in the House and Senate. Or they could strategically split the vote of the Democrats. They don’t have to win; they just have to strategically prevent the Democrat or Republican from winning.

Most third parties struggle to raise money and have to fight to stay on the ballot. Because of Citizens United, there is unlimited funding of super PACs. They could saturate all the ad buys in that media market. You could possibly see over $100 million in super PACs just to prevent the Trump-aligned GOP candidate from winning.

Could the GOP candidate win an election being outspent ten or one hundred to one by a super PAC and beat a Democrat challenger at the same time? In a safe district, yes. But what about more competitive districts? All the people that voted for the Big Billionaire Bill either get primaried by a Musk-aligned Republican, or the vote gets split by the America Party candidate.

They don’t have to win. The America Party could strategically split the vote and get the Democratic Party a supermajority in Congress. They could easily split the vote of the Democrats also. Trump would get impeached. JD Vance is then the puppet of Thiel and Musk.

If we use approval voting or score voting, we could prevent vote splitting from happening in elections. We seriously need a constitutional amendment to ban corporate free speech protection and corporate lobbying. We should have publicly funded elections and a land value tax.

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    I would not be surprised if this was an attempt at giving us two far-right parties, one on power, one in symbolic opposition, with the Democratic party forced into an impotent third place.

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    I find it hard to believe that the America party has any chance of pulling more votes from Democrats than Republicans in any potential or hypothetical race.

    Even if they platformed an actual socialist somewhere, typical Dem voters would either be strongly turned off by any musk association, or see America party and say “that’s not a D” and vote for a Democrat.

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    Splitting the conservative vote is the silver lining on this. Democrats fucking love complacency - if they’re “guaranteed a win,” they’ll continue moving right. Yeah, gay people can’t get married anymore…but at least we’re not those guys! Vote blue no matter who!

    I’m clinging to the hope that this will at least rile up the right into supporting RCV but I doubt it will

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      They could split the Democrat vote or the GOP vote. Getting just 2-5% of the vote could swing the elections away from the GOP and give the Democrats a supermajority.

      Musk could still be working with Trump, and this all could be a farce. The America Party could split the Democrat vote also. They could play spoiler in close elections and throw elections to the Republicans.

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        You are right.

        It would only affect close races so as to swing the election.

        Third parties would have to increase their turnout a good amount for them to have a chance in the national elections, but I think local elections can be impacted if more parties challenge the duopoly seats.

        The Green Party and other third parties have won seats at the local level.

        https://greenpartyus.org/greens-in-office/

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          Most third parties struggle to raise more than a few million in a federal election. Could a $200 million super PAC get 10% of the vote and swing the election to the Democrats? They don’t have to win. The American Party could just swing the election to the Democrats, and then the Democrats impeach Trump.

          This party could split the vote and swing the election to the GOP too. This could all be BS, and Trump and Elon are still working together.

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            Most third parties struggle to raise more than a few million in a federal election.

            Correct.

            This party could split the vote and swing the election to the GOP too. This could all be BS, and Trump and Elon are still working together.

            It may be a bigger split between Trump and Elon due to the Epstein post Elon made.

            “The speculation about Elon Musk having compromising information on Donald Trump related to the Epstein files.”[1]

            You are right; we shall see how this goes. Some say Elon may lose interest between 6 months and a year.


            1. [1] https://lemmy.world/post/32636494 ↩︎

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        It’s just going to take those dems who think yang is actually a good choice.

        But also, by the next election we should expect rampant election meddling, so it doesn’t matter anyway. Perhaps this party is in response to the accusations of fraud because entire districts didn’t have a single blue vote? Just a fake party.