Shylock is a fictional Jewish money-lender invented by Shakespeare.

The story ends when Shylock is defeated and forced to abandon Judaism.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shylock

  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    21 hours ago

    Do you think Biden was also being racist when he used the term? Or was he using it in a more general sense, as a term to describe immoral and unethical bankers in general?

      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        10 hours ago

        Was he racist in 2014? While he was vice president to a black man? The point is that some terms that old people use don’t mean the same thing to them that they do to average people today.

        Edit: lol, oops. Yes, Obama is black and not Jewish. I guess Biden could be antisemitic and not racist against black people. Or I suppose he could be racist and still work closely with a black man and appear convincingly to be on good terms with him. In any event it doesn’t prove much about Biden being antisemitic. I think he just used a dated term because he is old.

    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      17 hours ago

      This time? https://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/joe-biden-shylocks-reaction-111053

      Pretty obviously him being racist

      Biden used the term when he spoke at the 40th anniversary celebration for the Legal Services Corporation and referred to his son, Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, and his experience while in Iraq.

      “People would come up to him and talk about what was happening to them at home in terms of foreclosures, in terms of bad loans that were being — I mean, these Shylocks who took advantage of these women and men while overseas,” Biden said.

    • Glytch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      20 hours ago

      Yes. More specifically, Biden was being antisemitic when he used an antisemitic term to describe a group of people, regardless of their behavior.

      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 hours ago

        What if he used a term for crooked bankers to describe crooked bankers and didn’t consider that it propagated harmful stereotypes?

        • Glytch@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          9 hours ago

          Then he was negligently being antisemitic. The result is the same: harmful stereotypes propagated due to his choice of words and his failure to consider them more carefully.

    • jacksilver@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      19 hours ago

      I had to look it up cause I didn’t recall that Biden had used it. To be honest I think using the term probably falls into two categories in modern area; anitsemtic or way too old to be running anything.

      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 hours ago

        I agree. There are a lot of terms like that. People used to use them commonly, but now there is more awareness of the harm in these stereotypes. A lot of old people have a hard time adjusting. Someone I know used to use the term cottonpicker until I pointed out how racist it is. Somehow he had never made the connection, which seemed crazy, but I actually believe him.