Blahaj has a no tolerance policy on trans rights, from what I understand, and I think they like how they run their stuff. Maybe you know that already, but if not, maybe that’s helpful? It’s not so much thin skin as “we’re here for the purpose of not seeing that kinda stuff, so we block it here”.
DB0 is legitimately one of the coolest places on the modern internet, I’m curious to hear what kinds of things you’ve seen bans for. The admin/host (by the same name) seems to have very rational, reasonable takes toward moderation, and he values transparency and community feedback. Frankly from my own (instance-level, not community or thread) observations, he seems like a model of high-quality moderation. Your experience sounds off to me, but I hope that doesn’t come across as an accusation, I don’t intend one.
Blahaj, I kind of understand. Although I’d prefer if you were to have an LGBTQ+ safe place instance, that the communities primarily on there are LGBTQ+ communities. I don’t think I was banned on DB0 by the instance, but multiple communities which seemed to have the same mod.
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that you cannot be conservative on [email protected] , they’re basically just name squatting. They banned me from there because I was calling out a post attacking religion. I wasn’t even being that conservative.
I guess I’d add, having returned to this, that it’s a bit off-putting for you to be sharing your preferences for how they behave with their own instance, given your non-involvement with that instance itself, or trans things in general.
One of the major points of federation as a concept is for folks to not be mandatorily subject to some overarching singular approach to content moderation. You’re here, so I think it’s reasonable to assume you care at least a bit about the way this platform works and what makes it unique(ish) and valuable.
At the risk of coming across more hostile than I intend - why on earth does Blahaj need to specifically, only, be about trans topics, to be a valid space in your eyes, when it seems they mostly just want to exist how they prefer and interact with federated Lemmy stuff, in the ways federation explicitly intends?
I’ll admit that I don’t always remember to look at where a given post originated from before commenting, and I should get better at that - could be that’s all you need, too 🤷♂️
It’s moreso how here people tend to gravitate to a single community. It is annoying if that community is on an instance which could be banning people for other reasons unrelated to that community. I didn’t say it isn’t a valid space, it’s just how instances work. For a while Blahaj had defederated feddit.uk because we handled trans topics differently to how they’d prefer. It would be annoying if, let’s say, the main and active asklemmy community was on blahaj
Ah yeah that’s a reasonable take and I do know what you mean. I broadly like what federation offers over centralization, but it’s not without its quirks and some drawbacks, I hear ya.
At least if a community goes bad, people can shift very easily and it’s an inconvenience. I think ideally though, there should be a way to create publicly accepted combined communities. Maybe an option in a community’s setting to graft in posts from another community. Although then rule enforcement and moderation might get a little tricky. For example, just say [email protected] grafted in [email protected], maybe along with uk politics and other UK related subs (even local UK subs, that’d be cool!). Users on unitedkingdom may see something on casualuk and unknowingly leave comments on it which are political- and discussing politics is banned on casualuk.
Yeah I’ll be honest, I don’t have a lot to say about how those kinda scenarios should be managed at the moment, I haven’t thought that stuff through too deeply I’m realizing. I’m pretty happy to defer to folks with experience in community moderation and such, I’m frankly a pretty poor candidate for that, for several reasons (somewhat moody, sometimes fond of borderline hyperbolic takes, etc.).
I do think users should be able to have the experience they want, but that’s vague enough to be almost uselessly uncontroversial, and I also recognize that some people’s wants can be incompatible with others’, without either necessarily being unreasonable or unfair. So, another partial reflection of the human condition in general I guess.
You can be conservative, you just cannot be an ass. Unfortunately, it is rather difficult for conservatives to not be proper conservatives and instead they often turn to fascism like Trump and Musk proclaim.
Being a conservative is about prioritising the status quo. It is not about returning to the middle ages with a police state of witchhunting and mass murder, which is what fascists and reactionaries want.
I really don’t understand that comm either, but I haven’t looked too closely cuz I’m not that interested. I also moved off .world entirely for my accounts because I don’t like some of their moderation stances. I understand why they have them and don’t begrudge them for it, to be clear. But I do eye them warily as a kind of emerging de facto instance in some ways (AKA potential for more centralization than seems wise, given their need or desire to comply with certain local laws that limit speech).
Blahaj has a no tolerance policy on trans rights, from what I understand, and I think they like how they run their stuff. Maybe you know that already, but if not, maybe that’s helpful? It’s not so much thin skin as “we’re here for the purpose of not seeing that kinda stuff, so we block it here”.
DB0 is legitimately one of the coolest places on the modern internet, I’m curious to hear what kinds of things you’ve seen bans for. The admin/host (by the same name) seems to have very rational, reasonable takes toward moderation, and he values transparency and community feedback. Frankly from my own (instance-level, not community or thread) observations, he seems like a model of high-quality moderation. Your experience sounds off to me, but I hope that doesn’t come across as an accusation, I don’t intend one.
Blahaj, I kind of understand. Although I’d prefer if you were to have an LGBTQ+ safe place instance, that the communities primarily on there are LGBTQ+ communities. I don’t think I was banned on DB0 by the instance, but multiple communities which seemed to have the same mod.
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that you cannot be conservative on [email protected] , they’re basically just name squatting. They banned me from there because I was calling out a post attacking religion. I wasn’t even being that conservative.
I guess I’d add, having returned to this, that it’s a bit off-putting for you to be sharing your preferences for how they behave with their own instance, given your non-involvement with that instance itself, or trans things in general.
One of the major points of federation as a concept is for folks to not be mandatorily subject to some overarching singular approach to content moderation. You’re here, so I think it’s reasonable to assume you care at least a bit about the way this platform works and what makes it unique(ish) and valuable.
At the risk of coming across more hostile than I intend - why on earth does Blahaj need to specifically, only, be about trans topics, to be a valid space in your eyes, when it seems they mostly just want to exist how they prefer and interact with federated Lemmy stuff, in the ways federation explicitly intends?
I’ll admit that I don’t always remember to look at where a given post originated from before commenting, and I should get better at that - could be that’s all you need, too 🤷♂️
It’s moreso how here people tend to gravitate to a single community. It is annoying if that community is on an instance which could be banning people for other reasons unrelated to that community. I didn’t say it isn’t a valid space, it’s just how instances work. For a while Blahaj had defederated feddit.uk because we handled trans topics differently to how they’d prefer. It would be annoying if, let’s say, the main and active asklemmy community was on blahaj
Ah yeah that’s a reasonable take and I do know what you mean. I broadly like what federation offers over centralization, but it’s not without its quirks and some drawbacks, I hear ya.
At least if a community goes bad, people can shift very easily and it’s an inconvenience. I think ideally though, there should be a way to create publicly accepted combined communities. Maybe an option in a community’s setting to graft in posts from another community. Although then rule enforcement and moderation might get a little tricky. For example, just say [email protected] grafted in [email protected], maybe along with uk politics and other UK related subs (even local UK subs, that’d be cool!). Users on unitedkingdom may see something on casualuk and unknowingly leave comments on it which are political- and discussing politics is banned on casualuk.
Yeah I’ll be honest, I don’t have a lot to say about how those kinda scenarios should be managed at the moment, I haven’t thought that stuff through too deeply I’m realizing. I’m pretty happy to defer to folks with experience in community moderation and such, I’m frankly a pretty poor candidate for that, for several reasons (somewhat moody, sometimes fond of borderline hyperbolic takes, etc.).
I do think users should be able to have the experience they want, but that’s vague enough to be almost uselessly uncontroversial, and I also recognize that some people’s wants can be incompatible with others’, without either necessarily being unreasonable or unfair. So, another partial reflection of the human condition in general I guess.
You can be conservative, you just cannot be an ass. Unfortunately, it is rather difficult for conservatives to not be proper conservatives and instead they often turn to fascism like Trump and Musk proclaim.
Being a conservative is about prioritising the status quo. It is not about returning to the middle ages with a police state of witchhunting and mass murder, which is what fascists and reactionaries want.
Conservative was reclaimed from the hatemongers so it could be used to mock them.
Hilariously this comment is precisely as confusing to me as the comm itself.
I really don’t understand that comm either, but I haven’t looked too closely cuz I’m not that interested. I also moved off .world entirely for my accounts because I don’t like some of their moderation stances. I understand why they have them and don’t begrudge them for it, to be clear. But I do eye them warily as a kind of emerging de facto instance in some ways (AKA potential for more centralization than seems wise, given their need or desire to comply with certain local laws that limit speech).