• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    That’s a horrible misattribution of the famines in the early USSR and PRC, where famine was common before collectivization and industrialized farming. It wasn’t a misappropriation of food, but natural causes and a government ill-equipped to overcome the force of nature without industrialized farming. See why despite the early famines, life expectancy was consistently rising, unlike England where the introduction of industrialization caused a drop in life expectancy for a long time.

    The “higher economic prosperity” in the global north is because of imperialism. African countries are no longer traditional colonies, but are largely imperialized by western countries. The global south does the majority of the labor and production, the global north does the majority of consumption. The fact that you don’t even consider that this is true means you likely have never actually engaged with Marxist theory (which, to be fair, was already obvious, just moreso now).

    The “wall” hit by the USSR was an increase in liberalization, recovery from 20 million dying due to World War II, and having to devote a ton of resources to millitary purposes to prevent the US from nuking them outright. It wasn’t because of socialism inherently. Again, see the PRC, where there’s no “wall” in sight despite the economy being increasingly socialized.

    The unions and labor movements in the global north also depended on the USSR as an example of what happens if concessions aren’t given. When the USSR fell, workers rights in the global north shrank massively and wealth disparity rose massively. And, again, they depend on imperialism! The socialist bloc produced for themselves, their positive acheivements didn’t depend on imperialism, but their own labor. Not true at all for the global north.

    Again, you’re deeply unserious. You have no clue what you’re talking about. If I heard from 3 family members about how Biden is an ultracommunist and Trump is going to save the world, that doesn’t mean shit. What matters is looking at the facts, statistics, trends, and metrics.

    Edit: lmao, of course you’re a genocide denier that supports the fascist Zionists. No wonder you don’t factor in imperialism, you think it and settler-colonialism are good things. You bat for the IOF for free and say they are doing a good job of minimizing their genocide.

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      “higher economic prosperity” in the global north is because of imperialism.

      The Soviet Union was just as imperialist as the Russian Empire it inherited. They ruled puppet states across half of Europe on top of that.

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        No, it was not. It did not export capital, nor was it under the control of finance capital. The Soviet Union wasn’t imperialist. Again, you’re deeply unserious, have no idea what you’re talking about, and are a genocide-denying Zionist sycophant for the IOF.

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          I like how they completely skipped over the genocide denial part lol. Even if they did address it, there’s not much excuse to justify genocide denial lmao

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            Yep, if you check their history it’s filled with pro-IOF hasbara, I even think they’re debating in other threads today on if Israel is commiting genocide or not.

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              I know lol, I saw their comments a few months ago and just tagged them as a zionist. Liberal mental gymnastics never cease to amaze me, defending a literal proven genocide 🫠

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                Absolutely. Not only was it genocide pre-October 7th, but now it has ramped up to spiking sugar with narcotics, opening fire on Palestinians running for aid, and so much more. Fuck anyone trying to play cover for the IOF.

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          The Soviet Union wasn’t imperialist

          They just loved oppressing worker’s revolts like in the GDR and CSSR and invading Afghanistan. Totally not imperialist. Russification of Siberia and Ukraine totally not Imperialist. Deportations and ethnic cleansing of millions, must be anti imperialism. A war against communist China to conquer outer Mongolia? Just a friendly visit of working class solidarity.

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            Gotta love gish gallop, a dash of outright lies, a good deal of completely inventing a new definition of Imperialism, and a large heaping of ignoring that you’re a genocide enthusiast that bats for the IOF for free, and thus isn’t worth taking seriously.