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I don’t understand why you keep bringing this up? Am I engaging in this myself? I don’t even have hexbear defederated (clearly). This line of questioning has “but what about Hamas?” vibes.
I brought it up because I’ve seen you engage in that in this very thread:
This just happened to be where I made my account 2 years ago, but clearly because of 'what .ml is" I can’t be trusted. I will grant that you left yourself wiggle room by saying ‘who knows’, but you did say it was a valid assumption based on server.
.ML is clearly run and administered by MLs, we all know that. Being there doesn’t make one a tankie or someone to be disregarded outright and I never accused anyone of it, but it is still a factor when trying to figure out someone’s motivations, because staying there is a choice. I still don’t think it’s correct for that person to jump to the conclusion you’re a tankie, but I understand why they did it. So neither did I call you bad from being from .ml, nor did I engage in “red scare”. In fact I explicitly said I take your word for your allegiances, even though you behaviour has been defacto in defense of “left unity” which many anarchists reject outright.
However, If you think the choice of home instance never has any importance, I’d beg to disagree and I can present many examples of instances where simply being in them says a lot about the person.
Just as “many” anarchists may hold your specific opinions, I know plenty from years or organizing who are not as dogmatic about being sectarian. As I said I prefer to work with people like that just as you seem to prefer spaces like the anticommunist snark comms
Well so long as you come out of this smug enough about your superiority as an anarchist, it’s all good.
isn’t that what you were just doing by claiming that I have “allegiances and actions” that leave much to be desired by “many other anarchists”
turnabout is fair play, and the extent of my ‘actions’ and ‘allegiances’ that you claim “anarchists” disapprove of is entirely limited to posts on the Internet and thoughts in my head.
Exactly, that’s the only thing I have to go with, and fact of the matter is all I see you doing is allying in bullying other anarchists alongside with tankies. Likewise, all you have to go for is me making an anarchist meme, then defending myself against a bullying attempt and the usual ugliness this leads to. And note that my phrasing was very exact. “Much to be desired by other anarchists like me”. I.e. I don’t mean I’m better than you, or that you’re not a good anarchist, I’m just disappointed and wary.
Other anarchists participating in anticommunist snark comms and towing the line on that front dissappoints and leaves me wary too, hence my mockery of this particular situation.
I pointed out that I’m actually active as an anarchist in the real world because people routinely claim that I am something else. If you read that as claiming superiority then I read your reading as projection.
Yes, It does come as smug superiority when you go all “I work in actual real life orgs, I don’t just post anticommunist snark online like you.” How do you not see that? Do you see me flexing up my anarchist creds in this discussion?
I am disappointed in you because you are directly allying with non-anarchists to bully anarchists for their anarchist views (and because you chose to shame the disengage rule in the process). You are disappointed in me because I make fun of non-anarchist movements. I am happy that your scene has MLs that are collaborative with anarchists, but why is it so hard to not accept that other anarchists have different experiences than you?