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Cross-posted from “TRUE communism!” by @[email protected] in [email protected]
Cross-posted from “TRUE communism!” by @[email protected] in [email protected]
And that guy who pretends that hexbear doesn’t tolerate ableism while you can hear crickets from them when Yog-something is, to paraphrase him, “calling into question the functioning of someone’s brain [which] is pretty neuronormative” in every other dot ml’s c/worldnews’ post… Pure gold 🤣
Edit: I can’t see replies from hexbear on piefed, but I’m still lurking the thread on db0.
So, Sphere laddie:
Since when did that prevent you folks from jumping at someone’s throat? You called out that pedo mod I don’t remember the name, then Nutransphobic. What prevents you from calling out Yogthos if not a lax stance on ableism?
Not to excuse ableism, but there’s a pretty big difference between a mod going to bat for allowing drawn or AI generated CP, an admin actively espousing transphobic views (and this was called out most actively by Marcie, who is an ml user, though Hexbear joined in on criticism), and a user that might use problematic language sometimes. I mean, first of all, if you do take this seriously then why not show us some examples of what this user is doing that we’re failing to call out? It really helps to make your criticism actionable.
Did you read the comment?
“We take ableism very seriously, we just don’t ban people who are on our instance for it.” - Hexbear
Can you point to some specific time that Hexbear’s mod team or admin team should have banned someone or removed their comments for ableism and didn’t?
Check the mod logs here, several people have had their messages removed for ableism.
Scrolled through the modlog. The only one I found (and maybe there’s more, I had to go through a few pages) was Professor Owl, who was arguing with db0 after db0 said the reason they posted bait then ran away by telling everyone with solid arguments to disengage was their autism. That’s not something autism makes you do. I can see the “arguing compulsively” part, but the whole “running away and telling everyone that shows up with actual evidence against my claims to shut up” is not autism, it’s just cowardice.
Edit: just to spell it out: Arguing compulsively as a result of your autism is fine. It’s something I experience, too. I totally sympathize. But when people show you evidence that you’re wrong, the correct thing to do (ND or NT doesn’t matter) is to change your views. If you’re stubborn to the point that you’d rather humiliate yourself by spamming “disengage” after starting a million arguments, you’re gonna get laughed at. Just admit that you made an incorrect claim, it won’t kill you.
The fifth upvoted hexbear promoting ableism and denigrating the disengage rule. Great showing of their supposed intolerance of ableism, for sure.
And this is after I painstakingly explained to this person why this is ableist to the point where they had nothing more to say. So instead they just repeated their made-up assumptions elsewhere, going directly against what I explained I was doing, because it just wouldn’t be hexbear if bad faith wasn’t the modus operanti.
But Hexbear told me they don’t tolerate ableism and they aren’t being bad faith at all!!!
[email protected] is full of em
here’s all the results for “ableism” inside that comm. Many of them are from a 10 month old thread where the OP is no longer visible. I guess it’s possible that the ableism referenced is coming from someone aligned with Hexbear or Lemmygrad, but it seems more likely that they’re just discussing ableism pretty generally.
Can you provide an example, if that comm really is full of them elsewhere?
Yogthos isn’t a Hexbear, and .ml’s worldnews comm is not a Hexbear comm. Good try, though!
Since when does that stop Hexbear from calling out people on Lemmy?
There’s probably a million comments made every day across Lemmy that Hexbear doesn’t make an endorsement or condemnation of. Are we supposed to be the Lemmy police? We call out some stuff that gets directed our way, sometimes we call out things that are directed more generally that we think are bigoted or problematic, but unless you’re arguing that we have a responsibility to police every interaction on the platform and pick a side to endorse every time, I don’t see the problem here.
Well seeing the moment someone calls out authoritarian socialist policies y’all jump to defending them, I think y’all could stand to use the same energy to do something slightly better.
If we had to intervene every time someone used problematic language (and I’m not talking slurs, way more subtle things) then we would literally have to go on a crusade in every single thread ever. You’re not being a serious person if you really think this is a reasonable thing to expect.