• CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      And US republicans say they believe in freedom above all.

      Nonsequitur, of course everyone says they believe in freedom, including you, the difference is whether their actions lead to it, which the Communist Party of China’s have done.

      I figured it would be this story, I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t some other phantasm you’d conjured up. Pornography is illegal in China (as it should be). These women were writing erotic novels that crossed the legal boundary into pornography, however that’s judged, and selling them. There is a thriving market for gay erotica that skirts the pornography law, and a thriving scene for ‘pornographic’ novels that aren’t being sold for money, the problem is when you try to secretly sell the latter. As a result, 22 people have been arrested for essentially tax fraud, out of a population of 1,400,000,000.

      And why would China be anti-LGBT? Like most of the third world, China has some cultural conservatives with anti-LGBT views, but also like in most of the third world, these were installed by colonizers forcing westernization and Christian morality upon them. China has a long history of LGBT acceptance and even celebration in its pre-modern history, such as the ‘passion of the cut sleeve’ (go look it up). The crucial difference is that unlike in the western world, they don’t have a massive, powerful, fundamentalist religious lobby that can dictate policy and force them back in the wrong direction. The Chinese youth are unsurprisingly more progressive than their elders, so as time goes on attitudes should soften more.

      But this brings up another important point: without a state, what are you going to do with all the homophobes? Do you think you could have a peaceful anarchist revolution in the United States and everyone would just stop hating gay and transgender people by themselves? Do you think the reactionaries of the US won’t need to be imprisoned until they can be educated into not hating the gays? Do you think you won’t need a special body of armed men to forcibly suppress the urge to lynch which lives in the heart of a large fraction of USians? What is the anarchist mechanism for actually transforming the world as it is now, into the world we want it to be, without apparently inconveniencing anyone? You can’t answer this of course, because anyone who thinks about it long enough and actually references history becomes a communist.

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        Do you think you won’t need a special body of armed men

        smug-explain I think we should have a special body of armed women and enbies, personally.

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        Nonsequitur, of course everyone says they believe in freedom, including you, the difference is whether their actions lead to it, which the Communist Party of China’s have done.

        Yeah, the one party state is clear evidence of a strong democracy. 🤣

        I knew there was evidence of this, I was just acting incredulous for cheap rhetorical points because I thought you’re too lazy to link to evidence. Achsually pornography is illegal and furthermore imprisoned people don’t count because blah blah tldr

        Thanks tankie for once again showing your entire ass.

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          Lazy and stupid. You can tell EXACTLY where in their comment you decided to stop reading and it’s before the second sentence in their second (really first) paragraph.

          You got suckered into believing capitalist propaganda that made you believe there was a MASSIVE CRACKDOWN ON LGBT SELF EXPRESSION. And you just had it explained to you that story was mutated from the actual reality of China enforcing its ban on for-profit pornography.

          Just for passing on such obvious capitalist state propaganda you could easily be called incurious. But holy shit look at the juvenile way you just decided to ignore someone plainly laying out what’s happening behind the english press. You’re just fucking stupid and lazy.

          And if you didn’t bait @[email protected] with that dumb shit “more parties = more democracy” you probably should have gotten the response you deserved (this one).

          Are you going to have a single fucking moment of self reflection about how you could be deceived so eagerly into adopting a fascist state’s political line?

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          Oh, so you care about bourgeoise multiparty elections for control of a state? Which is it, are all states evil or are some actually okay, now that you think about it? Perhaps the ones you live in and have assimilated all the cultural norms of? What a curious coincidence.

          Ah yeah, I forgot the anarchist counter to communist arguments, not being able to read.

          Here’s some pretty pictures for you to look at - Chinese life expectancy

          and Chinese solar panel production

          If the human species still exists in a thousand years, it will be thanks to the communists of China