All from in this thread in [email protected] about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said “death, death to the IDF”.

After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @[email protected] (appearing as “acargitz”) pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.

Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.

In the same thread: user @[email protected] had comments removed for being anti-American “(again)”, though I couldn’t see the first time. It’s not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.

Bonus points for the “DC Comics” removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    72·
    26 days ago

    Me:

    Hi, my comments were deleted in politics for “internet slap fighting.” I read the rules of that community and don’t see “arguing” as a rule violation. I also find the term “slap fight” to be extremely sexist especially directed at me as a woman, especially since it’s not mentioned in your rules and the mod used that term on their own. I don’t see where I violated the rules with those comments. Please reinstate my comments, and please fire the mod who is abusing their power to be sexist against women with opinions.

    Linebreak Me to outrageousmatter (refused to answer bc he is a coward too)

    Hi, my comments were deleted in politics for “internet slap fighting.” I read the rules of that community and don’t see “arguing” as a rule violation. I also find the term “slap fight” to be extremely sexist especially directed at me as a woman, especially since it’s not mentioned in your rules and the mod used that term on their own. I don’t see where I violated the rules with those comments. Please reinstate my comments, and please fire the mod who is abusing their power to be sexist against women with opinions. In light of recent civil rights erosion towards women, and how few openly woman users there are on Lemmy, having a sexist mod in charge of a politics community is completely unacceptable.

    Linebreak jordanlund

    Your continual back and forth with “Soup” (btw, how funny is that statement out of context? Arguing with Soup? It’s like the “women lauging at salad” meme) wasn’t productive or healthy for either of you or for the group.

    Not picking sides, just removed all of it.

    Linebreak Me: if mods can just remove comments based on whims? Is that fair or just?

    I think what I said was very well reasoned and made two great points. Arguments are learning opportunities for everyone. Besides, my argument with them finished yesterday and these comments were removed today. We hadn’t kept on arguing.

    I can understand removing comments in arguments that violate rules. Eg me calling him a coward directly. I get that, that should be removed. But even in your own community’s rules, it says we can insult an idea or policy, just not a person. I don’t think it’s appropriate to unilaterally delete comments that don’t violate rules. It tends to suppress the speech of people who are marginalized and not status quo thinkers.

    Thank you for your response.

    (His response was to refuse to reinstate my comments which were productive and deserve to be heard, but gotta protect other men (I was arguing with a sexist who lost the argument), huh, while making jokes and laughing about my entire gender losing rights. I genuinely hope he gets ass cancer and shits blood).

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        35·
        26 days ago

        Obsessed with a hate sub because I’m a woman who talks about feminism. Pretty aure I wrote that about women’s right to vote being actively taken away and men not standing up for our rights. May it feel like spit on your face every time you read it. May the shame imbed into you.

        Here’s some other quotes you can have of mine, you small dicked weasel

        https://lemmy.world/post/21587225/13262257

        I have already explicitly told you I believe it because Lemmy is full of men who have no problem with rape, which is pretty fucking common.

        Like your position is laughable - I’m unhappy as a woman regarding rape conversations, and I’m only getting downvoted because I’m not “smiling” enough in my comments. I’m sorry I have a bad attitude about rapists. I should really be nicer to them like you.

        https://lemmy.world/post/20333160/12637526

        we can see how much a downvote is worth here. This isn’t a site for leftists or progressives, or even people with a basic understanding of the Civil Rights Era

        https://lemmy.world/post/19201830/12103781

        Story of my account. These words exist as a monument of spite

        https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13344248

        Exactly. You were always a fascist regardless of my behavior. You were always going to be fascist and advocate for fascist things. My pleasantness or lack thereof is simply a matter of palatability and convenience for you; it doesn’t actually affect your morals because that isn’t how morals work. A black person can abuse me as much as they want and I won’t advocate for chattel slavery, for instance. I never thought black people had to earn the right to not be enslaved. Shame on you. When the Rs kill all of ypu men in wars and through shitty food, remember that scene from Mad Men - you aren’t doing it for me, because I never liked you.

        I hope all abusive, misogynistic men hate me. I certainly hate them. May you all get ass cancer.

            • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              25 days ago

              Exactly, I’ve literally argued with him that Clinton was a bad person, with connections to Epstein and who denigrated her husband’s abuse victims, who literally stole our right to vote from us by paying off the DNC for an unfair election primary (admitted to in court). And if she was a feminist (and not an asshole gaining benefits from feminism while pulling up the ladder behind her), then she would support medical care for all, which she explicitly doesn’t. Getting women healthcare is one of the most feminist things a person can do and it is quite basic and goes back thousands of years.

              He got really mad about that.

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        26 days ago

        It’s more the psychological aspect of worrying every time he takes a shit and having to get colonoscopies to find out if he’s dying or not

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          2·
          26 days ago

          So you think ass cancer is just something that exists to be sacrificed for the sake of your insurgency?

          Thank you madame cia director, for your clarification.

            • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              2·
              26 days ago

              I think ass cancer has a vibrant and potentially eternal life, and that ass cancer’s best revenge will be outliving you.

              Also, one of the very few cancers I’m not at elevated risk for. Sorry. It’s gotta get in line.

              I do agree with your general sentiment upthread, i just don’t love the splash damage to ass cancer.

              • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                25 days ago

                Your cancer is part of you and not a separate entity though. It isnt autonomous. Anyone who eats processed meat like bacon is at risk of ass cancer.

                • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  11·
                  25 days ago

                  your cancer is a part of you and not a separate entity

                  Wow. Okay. And children are property, yeah?

                  isn’t autonomous

                  The concept of ‘self’ as coherent cohesive essential entity that responds to a coherent cohesive essential will located strictly on one side of the blood-brain barrier is a grand font of misperception and terrible ideas. ‘Your’ hands are very slightly autonomous, if not necessarily competent.

                  anyone who eats processed meat like

                  Even before rfkjr gutted the usda, i only ate about as much meat as an undisciplined vegan who doesnt know how to cook.

                  Now i think it’s been a couple months. I am, however, at elevated risk for breast skin lung throat various blood cancers…

                  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    2·
                    25 days ago

                    Lol holy fuck men CANNOT GRASP autonomy at all, can they???

                    You seriously don’t understand tbe difference between a non-autonomous fetus, an autonomous child, and a non-autonomous tumor?

                    The concept of ‘self’ as coherent cohesive essential entity that responds to a coherent cohesive essential will located strictly on one side of the blood-brain barrier is a grand font of misperception and terrible ideas. ‘Your’ hands are very slightly autonomous, if not necessarily competent.

                    Lol see my very first sentence my god

                    If you cut off a hand or otherwise separate it from the body, is it able to function autonomously?

                    Also the mind/brain split is an idea from like Descartes and old religions and isn’t scientifically based and in fact Sapolsky and others assert that it is kinda arbitrary. Like yeah there’s a blood brain barrier but if I cut off your hand, you will have brain damage from it and some people even get phantom limb syndrome. You are your whole physical body and maybe a little beyond that due to electron exchange. In generally, anatomically a lot of borders are more ambiguous than you’d realize, especially bc of the microbes and chemicals that interact with our tissues.

                    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4muob

                    I could tell you more about cancer but tbh you’re a self proclaimed misogynist so I won’t, I will help you out as much as your kind helps me.

                    Any amount of processed meat raises your risk of ass cancer, over your life time.

                    https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cancer-carcinogenicity-of-the-consumption-of-red-meat-and-processed-meat