Since its inception by overthrowing the US and Israel installed Shah dictator the Islamic Republic has been under attack and threat by the US and Israel. Most notably the US encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran right away, leading to an 8 year war with a million Iranians killed. In that time Saddam Husseins chemical warfare program was built by mainly Germany and a significant amount of precursors provided by NATO countries. Saddam used those chemical weapons agains Iran but also against the Kurdish minority.
The US and Israel have aimed at destroying Iran since the past 46 years, except for Obama. They are the existential threat.
Meanwhile Iran has sought a deal and upheld the JCPOA until Trump broke it and the Western allies rallied around the US instead of seriously upholding the deal themselves. Despite all of this Iran was seeking diplomacy again.
In order to prevent any chance of diplomacy Israel is bombing Iran since 9 days and noe Trump joined in.
Do you think this theocracy, this mullahchy, is better than the Shah?
As bad as he was—and he was bad—at least he didn’t try to get nukes.
Had Saddam stayed out of Kuwait, he might still be around.
My sympathies for any of these regimes is limited.
(Modern) Israel exists because most of Europe was an antisemitic shithole, and that includes Russia and the UK; guys like Netanyahu are a product of this, and Hamas are a bunch of jihadi punks who have been used by both Iran and Israel.
Hamas and Hezbollah are a product of Israeli invasion and occupation. The goals of Hamas are national goals, not religious goals. They have nothing to do with Al-Quaeda or ISIS. Ironically Israel has treated ISIS fighters in Syria and Israeli weapons made it into ISIS camps. Now Israeli is arming and protecting lowlife criminals in Gaza with links to ISIS to plunder UN aid convoys.
Meanwhile Iran wasn’t seeking a nuke since 2003 as has been maintained by the US intelligence, in particular CIA well into this year
Instead Iran had negotiated the JCPOA with Obamas government and upheld it until Trump broke it, with the EU allies following suit to the US. Still Iran was seeking to get back to diplomacy even as Israel is now bombing Iran. But evidently neither Israel nor the US can ever be trusted with diplomacy. They will just turn around and bomb you whenever they feel like it.
Hamas and Hezbollah are a product of Israeli invasion and occupation.
IIUC, Hezbollah are, while Hamas was useful to Israel in dividing Fatah/PLO, and on Putin’s 71st birthday, giving Netanyahu the excuse he needed to do what he’s been doing in Gaza.
The goals of Hamas are national goals, not religious goals.
Hamas is an acronym of the Arabic phrase حركة المقاومة الإسلامية or Ḥarakah al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, meaning “Islamic Resistance Movement”. This acronym, HMS, was glossed in the 1988 Hamas Covenant[66] by the Arabic word ḥamās (حماس) which itself means “zeal”, “strength”, or “bravery”.[67]
They have nothing to do with Al-Quaeda or ISIS. Ironically Israel has treated ISIS fighters in Syria and Israeli weapons made it into ISIS camps. Now Israeli is arming and protecting lowlife criminals in Gaza with links to ISIS to plunder UN aid convoys.
Divide and rule: yep, that sounds like something Israel would do.
Meanwhile Iran wasn’t seeking a nuke since 2003 as has been maintained by the US intelligence, in particular CIA well into this year
Perhaps.
I still don’t trust them anymore than the US.
Instead Iran had negotiated the JCPOA with Obamas government and upheld it until Trump broke it, with the EU allies following suit to the US. Still Iran was seeking to get back to diplomacy even as Israel is now bombing Iran. But evidently neither Israel nor the US can ever be trusted with diplomacy. They will just turn around and bomb you whenever they feel like it.
Why?
Since its inception by overthrowing the US and Israel installed Shah dictator the Islamic Republic has been under attack and threat by the US and Israel. Most notably the US encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran right away, leading to an 8 year war with a million Iranians killed. In that time Saddam Husseins chemical warfare program was built by mainly Germany and a significant amount of precursors provided by NATO countries. Saddam used those chemical weapons agains Iran but also against the Kurdish minority.
The US and Israel have aimed at destroying Iran since the past 46 years, except for Obama. They are the existential threat.
Meanwhile Iran has sought a deal and upheld the JCPOA until Trump broke it and the Western allies rallied around the US instead of seriously upholding the deal themselves. Despite all of this Iran was seeking diplomacy again.
In order to prevent any chance of diplomacy Israel is bombing Iran since 9 days and noe Trump joined in.
The existential threats are Israel and the US.
Do you think this theocracy, this mullahchy, is better than the Shah?
As bad as he was—and he was bad—at least he didn’t try to get nukes.
Had Saddam stayed out of Kuwait, he might still be around.
My sympathies for any of these regimes is limited.
(Modern) Israel exists because most of Europe was an antisemitic shithole, and that includes Russia and the UK; guys like Netanyahu are a product of this, and Hamas are a bunch of jihadi punks who have been used by both Iran and Israel.
Hamas and Hezbollah are a product of Israeli invasion and occupation. The goals of Hamas are national goals, not religious goals. They have nothing to do with Al-Quaeda or ISIS. Ironically Israel has treated ISIS fighters in Syria and Israeli weapons made it into ISIS camps. Now Israeli is arming and protecting lowlife criminals in Gaza with links to ISIS to plunder UN aid convoys.
Meanwhile Iran wasn’t seeking a nuke since 2003 as has been maintained by the US intelligence, in particular CIA well into this year
Instead Iran had negotiated the JCPOA with Obamas government and upheld it until Trump broke it, with the EU allies following suit to the US. Still Iran was seeking to get back to diplomacy even as Israel is now bombing Iran. But evidently neither Israel nor the US can ever be trusted with diplomacy. They will just turn around and bomb you whenever they feel like it.
IIUC, Hezbollah are, while Hamas was useful to Israel in dividing Fatah/PLO, and on Putin’s 71st birthday, giving Netanyahu the excuse he needed to do what he’s been doing in Gaza.
Perhaps.
FWIW,
wp:Hamas
(my bold)
Divide and rule: yep, that sounds like something Israel would do.
Perhaps.
I still don’t trust them anymore than the US.
Hasanabi rules:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/t6ap1l/what_do_we_make_of_the_hasanabi_doctrine/#lightbox