It’s an assymetric cat-and-mouse game.
YouTube does it for revenue and has to spend money to enhance their anti-adblock system, while there is an army of volunteers online who will gladly defeat these enhancements for free with an impact on a massive scale.
But YouTube has A LOT of money
The Internet has A LOT of volunteers
I’m thankful for the volunteers but goodwill is not gonna last forever. Especially easy to burnout on goodwill when casual users goes apeshit on devs whenever things don’t work. The system is stacked against volunteers.
I figure that eventually the effort will shift to ways to rip and redistribute the content.
Combine that with the 83% price increase in Australia!
YouTube can eat shit, they’re screwing over even those of us willing to pay, Smarttube here I come!
Yep! More people need to learn about Smarttube and Revanced!
Spread the word!
Definitely. They work way better than YouTube itself.
I’ve been a YouTube premium subscriber since before it existed. Last night I installed ReVanced.
It is not better than the default experience with premium. But it is pretty close. I’m using a patched version of the YouTube client, after all. The default client is not 🇦🇺$17/month better by a long shot.
I am still undecided on whether to wear the price increase. I have until March to decide.
As plenty of other people have already said, if YouTube Premium went up by a pittance every month (boiling frog price increases) I would probably keep subscribing. The fact that they A) clamped down on AdBlockers and B) increased Premium rates is a major disappointment.
Add to this that Patreon are introducing invasive User Agreements and it is getting more difficult to support Independent content creators.
Platforms like Curiosity Stream are looking more and more appealing to those of us who want interesting content and don’t mind parting with a reasonable amount of cash to support creators.
I wouldn’t give Google $32.99/m for YouTube, no matter how slowly they increased the price, that’s utterly ridiculous.
I’ve used Curiosity Stream and Nebula before, would happily go back.
Unfortunately nebula has started blacklisting creators they dont agree with, just cancelled my 2 year sub to them because they deleted second thoughts channels. Who was the sole reason I paid for that sub.
Unfortunately nebula has started blacklisting creators they dont agree with
Elaborate. Why were they banned? If it was kiddie creepers or nazi shit or “not fascists but #1 with fascists” shit like
I don’t blame them for that.For videos critical of Israel and the IOF.
Its jt from second thought
I appreciate the clarification. Usually when I hear “they censored something, how dare they” it’s something dire.
People are still subscribed to Netflix, even though the price keeps going up, even if they don’t watch it. People still have multiscreen subscriptions, even if only one person ever watches it. People still pay their monthly fee for a cable subscription.
I upgraded to a Family subscription so I could watch my YouTube without Ads and I could watch YouTube with my brother without Ads and it was only a few dollars more.
If Google increased the price gradually, a dollar at a time, I would probably not have noticed, like the mythical frog in the cookpot. The fact that they increased the price and clamped down on Ad Blockers at the same time bought media attention to the price rise.
So sad that lots of people would gobble up thst shit, thinking that it’s still worthwhile price.
When we are paying that same amount for Netflix and/or Disney+ and/or whatever other streaming service and all the content is shit, paying for YouTube Premium was pretty good value.
There is a market of niche video content that is not ever going to be fulfilled by the Mainstream streaming companies, content creators need to be able to fund their content creation and I fucking hate Ads.
If I can pay a small amount to avoid the Ads, don’t have to participate in the arms race of Ad Blockers and still know that the content creators are getting paid I will be happy to pay.
Unfortunately, Google has increased that pittance progressively over time and have now increased it dramatically. They have also introduced a payment platform to try and muscle out Patreon. This suggests that the money from my subscription is not getting the the creators.
I can’t pay a small amount to avoid ads any more. Content creators are not getting paid, and I am being forced to either not get the content any more or start investigating Ad Blockers.
I’ve heard others say that many people are uninstalling ad blockers.
I guess its just how you interpret the data
What’s often left out is people are uninstalling terrible ad blockers and installing better ones. The terrible ones allow certain ads (from advertisers who pay to get through) or even inject their own ads.
Some disinformative articles are trying to use that to claim that because people are uninstalling [insert bad scammy adblocker name] that people are uninstalling adblockers altogether.
I’d disable mine on YouTube for the sake of ripping all the videos I want overnight, then consuming them at my leisure later on.
Basically what I’m doing already, just with an extra step.
Can’t you just use third party cleints
Uninstalling to immediately reinstall, probably.
I’m assuming this will escalate to some insanely locked down DRM scheme. Guess I’ll enjoy uBlock, ReVanced and yt-dlp while I can
Well Google has recently been forcing through its awful Web Environment Integrity proposal so…
they cancelled that
more like delayed
yeah it’ll probably find its way in under a different name in a more subtle way. use firefox
They also could use Winevile like Netflix does
For every tech company with an r&d team fighting this stuff, there’s a plethora of programming wizards whose sole purpose in life is to defeat them.
Never would’ve guessed.
The worst-case endgame is, you can send the videos, but they’ll never reach my eyeballs. Send those frames to /dev/null and store the video stream where I can watch it as often as I like.
Or worse, they are just using third party clients.
I had uBlock Origin and I didn’t mind paying for YouTube Premium. When I will mind paying for YouTube Premium will be when all of my feed is full of reactionary populist channels, not to avoid paying part of the income that pays some of the people making a career out of streaming on the platform I’ve been avoiding even watching ads on.
It will be a losing battle for the people not trying to look for alternatives - in the end, Google has control of the backend, they can eventually decide to incorporate ads directly into the streams that are served to people protocol wise and they can decide to forego giving users any warning of when an ad will play and when they will try to force the video into forced reproduction.
That the streams are served in a way where the browser can discern when it should play the ads is more of a courtesy from a legacy architecture that came from a Google that wasn’t intent on cracking down on people adblocking, and people may have to revert back to using more specific and resource intensive YouTube adblockers that try to guess when a commercial break is starting and ending directly from the video stream like old school VCRs did: https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,-2869,00.html
I pay for YouTube premium, but it’s a lot of money given they have $0 production cost.
I just got an email saying the subscription will go up by 60% in April (I’m on a grandfathered premium plan).
God I’m so weary of these threads.
I’m almost certain 100% of lemmy users can google “YouTube ad blocker”.
We should have a YT fuckery megathread.
I was curious…
What’s your point? You haven’t been able to figure out how to use an ad blocker?
