Financially the US is gaining from it all, like she is from the Ukraine war. The point is good, but Israel buying weapons systems from the US means less potholes.
Using “freely given” and “profits” in the same sentence should’ve set alarms as to how the issue might be more complex than just who buys what from who.
You are wrong and a simple research into the subject reveals how.
The bread and butter of the US Military Industrial Complex is selling weapons/platforms/systems to other governments. Yes, US contractors can’t just directly sell weapons/etc to other countries (without express permission/case by case basis).
What the person you replied to said is accurate: The US is giving these weapons to Ukraine “for free” (i.e. nothing is ever truly free, Ukraine will end up paying for it one way or another if they come out victorious in the end). However, the DoD is still paying the defense contractors who manufacturer these weapons (unless it’s ammunition and certain types of munitions, which the DoD actually makes themselves).
Regardless, I agree that it is a bit complex, but not that complex. The US Military Industrial Complex is well documented and proven, not sure why you’re acting like the US being the world’s largest arms dealer isn’t what it is.
wtf do you think these votes in the senate about giving military aid mean? the idea that paying defense contractors to replenish our arsenal is somehow funding local infrastructure is utterly deranged.
edit, to be clear, im not saying that supplying our allies is wrong (well, at this point it might be wrong in israel’s case. certainly not in ukraine’s though). I’m just saying that your earlier statement about the wars making money for the US is wrong. Some US companies are making money, but only because it’s being printed by the US government. Not a positive for the rest of us.
Good lord you’re infuriatingly stupid. That isn’t at all the subject of the article I linked, and you didn’t even read my comment!? “The game of define words” is a game YOU played, not me, moron, by conflating 2 sentences about “freely given” and “profits” without thinking for even a fraction of a second about WHO the weapons are being given to, and WHO is making the profits!
Enough with the “do your own research” bullshit. Either explain yourself or fuck off.
I have explained myself. I don’t see a reason to hold your hand and explain things that are beyond your comprehension to you, when I can just ask you to research before having an opinion on a subject you know nothing of. Personally I think you have all the rights in the world to be as wrong as you want, but I will of course call you out on it. Being misinformed unfortunately seems to be fashionable and it’s either that or plain laziness to research into it that makes you wrong.
I literally work in the business and know a thing or two on how these aid contracts are written.
I only know about the “ink printer” or “Gillette” aspect of the aid contracts. How does the money get back to fixing potholes? You mean through taxes on the consumables?
Financially the US is gaining from it all, like she is from the Ukraine war. The point is good, but Israel buying weapons systems from the US means less potholes.
They aren’t being bought. It’s being freely given. All profits go to weapons manufacturers.
Using “freely given” and “profits” in the same sentence should’ve set alarms as to how the issue might be more complex than just who buys what from who.
You are wrong and a simple research into the subject reveals how.
The bread and butter of the US Military Industrial Complex is selling weapons/platforms/systems to other governments. Yes, US contractors can’t just directly sell weapons/etc to other countries (without express permission/case by case basis).
What the person you replied to said is accurate: The US is giving these weapons to Ukraine “for free” (i.e. nothing is ever truly free, Ukraine will end up paying for it one way or another if they come out victorious in the end). However, the DoD is still paying the defense contractors who manufacturer these weapons (unless it’s ammunition and certain types of munitions, which the DoD actually makes themselves).
Regardless, I agree that it is a bit complex, but not that complex. The US Military Industrial Complex is well documented and proven, not sure why you’re acting like the US being the world’s largest arms dealer isn’t what it is.
jfc i was hoping you weren’t gonna choose to be an idiotic pedant but here we are.
the us government signs incredibly expensive contracts with weapons manufacturers. aka “buys weapons.” then gives those weapons to its allies. https://www.vox.com/world/2022/12/16/23507640/dc-party-invite-military-contractors-money-ukraine-russia-war-us
wtf do you think these votes in the senate about giving military aid mean? the idea that paying defense contractors to replenish our arsenal is somehow funding local infrastructure is utterly deranged.
edit, to be clear, im not saying that supplying our allies is wrong (well, at this point it might be wrong in israel’s case. certainly not in ukraine’s though). I’m just saying that your earlier statement about the wars making money for the US is wrong. Some US companies are making money, but only because it’s being printed by the US government. Not a positive for the rest of us.
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Good lord you’re infuriatingly stupid. That isn’t at all the subject of the article I linked, and you didn’t even read my comment!? “The game of define words” is a game YOU played, not me, moron, by conflating 2 sentences about “freely given” and “profits” without thinking for even a fraction of a second about WHO the weapons are being given to, and WHO is making the profits!
Enough with the “do your own research” bullshit. Either explain yourself or fuck off.
I have explained myself. I don’t see a reason to hold your hand and explain things that are beyond your comprehension to you, when I can just ask you to research before having an opinion on a subject you know nothing of. Personally I think you have all the rights in the world to be as wrong as you want, but I will of course call you out on it. Being misinformed unfortunately seems to be fashionable and it’s either that or plain laziness to research into it that makes you wrong.
I only know about the “ink printer” or “Gillette” aspect of the aid contracts. How does the money get back to fixing potholes? You mean through taxes on the consumables?
He’s a liar who has no idea what he’s talking about. “Do your own research” style moron. I’m sure his dad works at Nintendo.
Please don’t waste both of our time by replying to comments you have not read.