• OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Not that I’m pro one side or the other, but what should be done when hamas tells civilians to stay, and then hides behind them? That leaves hamas alive to stage another attack on… civilians.

    Like, I get that there should have been a better solution than what was done after ww2, but we can’t go back in time and the Israelis aren’t leaving.

    So… what? Hamas doesn’t seem to care that their avilians die, and actively use them as shielding so they can kill more Israelis. It’s fucked.

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      1 year ago

      This “human shield” propaganda is so biased. By Israel’s extremely broad definition, every Palestinian is a human shield.

      If you were to apply this sick “human shield” logic to both sides, most of the innocent civilians killed by Hamas on Oct 7th would be acceptable military targets.

      The IDF has military infrastructure near schools, malls, and hospitals. Why are they hiding behind human shields?

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        If you were to apply this sick “human shield” logic to both sides, most of the innocent civilians killed by Hamas on Oct 7th

        There were no military hiding among the party goers, or among the people living in their homes. The military personnel killed, was stationed at separate military installations that Hamas also targeted.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not talking about all Palestinians. I’m talking about the ones who are talked into staying where they are by hamas despite a warning ahead of time from Israel (and b4 you come in with “24 hours isn’t enough time,” I agree with you, but it’s something. It’s an attempt. The ravers were given zero warning, on purpose.)

        Those Palestinians are, literally, being used as human shields, and trying to brush that off as deceptive propaganda is ignoring the evilness of hamas.

        Being near something is different from hiding behind them. Hamas is IN civilian schools, sitting with the students, and IN the malls, standing among the shoppers, and IN the hospitals, betting on the fact that when Palestinians die, more people will back their agenda. They want them to die because it garners sympathy.

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      1 year ago

      Israel has conscription. Pretty much all of its adults have been in the military. We should be allowed to expand on your rationale to claim that most of the Israeli deaths weren’t civilians because they have been in the IDF.

      It’s shit logic, but so is yours.