You are acting as if police brutality and police murder are the fault of those that throw the first stone. Its not. Its not like peacefulness or being passive makes you safe from police brutality, because you have very limited control how the police as a whole and how individual cops actually act.
Also, the people who were showing up to start trouble were usually police agents or locals who thought that it would be fun to throw a rock at a cop. The IWW people knew more about police violence then you ever will; they were around before Miranda Rights and body cams. If they thought having a team there was a good idea, you should learn from them.
That mght be true in the time you are talking about, but currently rioting is a thing many people do and its shown to be effective. The George Floyd uprising was as big and powerful because of the rioting and not despite it.
This does not mean disregarding past experiences, but (to me seemingly) more recent experiences show the power of riots and the ways anarchists can show solidarity, especially in the context of the so call USA.
I also think calling for peacefulness when friends, families, colleges, neighbors, comrades get disappeared is just not what is needed in these circumstances and its also not stopping any of this.
I also think calling for peacefulness when friends, families, colleges, neighbors, comrades get disappeared is just not what is needed in these circumstances and its also not stopping any of this.
First, look up Martin Luther King. He called for non-violence in a situation that was much worse, against a tougher foe.
Second, who made you leader? Who decided that you had the right to instigate violence? Because you keep ignoring my basic point, that it’s not going to be the one who throws the brick who will get caught.
Wow, I was joking around when I proposed that you’ve been spending all your time pestering people to feel important, but you’re really good for nothing else. This is pathetic. That’s an easy block.
I also think calling for peacefulness when friends, families, colleges, neighbors, comrades get disappeared is just not what is needed in these circumstances and its also not stopping any of this.
First, look up Martin Luther King. He called for non-violence in a situation that was much worse, against a tougher foe.
So? I dont agree with him.
Second, who made you leader? Who decided that you had the right to instigate violence?
I am not presenting as an authority figure or as anyones boss. I am fine if you dont want to join. I think thats totally valid. But I can “instigate violence” because its covered by the instance rules, because its not looked down upon in this community and because from my anarchist perspective it seems to be one of the most effective actions you can currently take.
Because you keep ignoring my basic point, that it’s not going to be the one who throws the brick who will get caught.
Its just a statement without any reasoning, proof or context. As I have shown multiple times in our discussion, I value different viewpoints especially if they get brought forward kn good faith. But valuing them doesnt mean I have to agree with everything you say.
Folks in Minneapolis burned down a whole police station after throwing bricks. This is of course an extreme example but it should show the possibilities of how it could go instead.
You are acting as if police brutality and police murder are the fault of those that throw the first stone. Its not. Its not like peacefulness or being passive makes you safe from police brutality, because you have very limited control how the police as a whole and how individual cops actually act.
That mght be true in the time you are talking about, but currently rioting is a thing many people do and its shown to be effective. The George Floyd uprising was as big and powerful because of the rioting and not despite it.
This does not mean disregarding past experiences, but (to me seemingly) more recent experiences show the power of riots and the ways anarchists can show solidarity, especially in the context of the so call USA.
I also think calling for peacefulness when friends, families, colleges, neighbors, comrades get disappeared is just not what is needed in these circumstances and its also not stopping any of this.
First, look up Martin Luther King. He called for non-violence in a situation that was much worse, against a tougher foe.
Second, who made you leader? Who decided that you had the right to instigate violence? Because you keep ignoring my basic point, that it’s not going to be the one who throws the brick who will get caught.
Wow, I was joking around when I proposed that you’ve been spending all your time pestering people to feel important, but you’re really good for nothing else. This is pathetic. That’s an easy block.
You are a very funny guy.
So? I dont agree with him.
I am not presenting as an authority figure or as anyones boss. I am fine if you dont want to join. I think thats totally valid. But I can “instigate violence” because its covered by the instance rules, because its not looked down upon in this community and because from my anarchist perspective it seems to be one of the most effective actions you can currently take.
Its just a statement without any reasoning, proof or context. As I have shown multiple times in our discussion, I value different viewpoints especially if they get brought forward kn good faith. But valuing them doesnt mean I have to agree with everything you say.
Do you think you can throw a brick at a cop and the police won’t respond and start breaking every head they can find?
Folks in Minneapolis burned down a whole police station after throwing bricks. This is of course an extreme example but it should show the possibilities of how it could go instead.
Ever heard of Kent State?
That wasn’t even particularly violent, and four people died.
I heard of it. Sounded really scary and awful. I do not get your point tho
Well, if you honestly can’t comprehend people dying that is a good reason for you not to involve yourself in any activities outside of your home.
Maybe you should try talking to people you know who are smarter than you and ask them to explain.