• InputZero@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Yes but no, you have the right to defend your home but not against an officer of the law carrying out a warrant. So if a plain clothes officer, with a drawn fire arm, carrys out a no knock warrent, and the homeowner tries to shoot them. That’s attempting to kill an officer of the law. It doesn’t matter if the appearance of a plain clothes no knock warrent is identical to a home invasion, and the homeowner defends themselves, the ICE agents are just going to kill the homeowner and the ICE agents will have protection of the law.

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      4 days ago

      This isn’t really true. People have gotten off on shooting at officers because they didn’t know they were officers. It’s a huge risk, because they’ll also likely just shoot you, but the law doesn’t actually require people to have telepathic knowledge of the association of a presumed home invader.

      • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        It’s still very much a matter of privilege to afford a good enough attorney to get you off. Black people tend to get shot while sleeping and convicted postmortem.

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      You are forgetting they are not using warrants. A court would find you not guilty if they have no warrant and you defend yourself according to your laws.

      • ViceroTempus@lemmy.world
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        I certainly wouldn’t find anybody shooting an ICE “agent” as guilty if I was on the Jury, regardless of what a judge might say. Jury Nullification is an important right that every U.S. Citizen should know about, but never talk about inside a court house.

        I refuse to put away people defending their community from a gestapo like force, regardless of the events surrounding said gestapo’s death.

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      4 days ago

      Honest question: what warrant are they operating under? These guys won’t even produce ID when asked so I doubt they’ve got paperwork

      • InputZero@lemmy.world
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        If you’re asking about ICE officers, they’ve been given the authority to sign their own warrants.