https://feddit.org/post/13994826/7165181

Everything I downvoted was because I genuinely do not think it’s good. Like meat is not going to cure cancer.

I actually really like eating meat I just try to life a life that gives others room to enjoy this earth too without mutually destroying it.

Please tell me how I am the asshole :)

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    We need to stop normalizing banning people for how they vote.

    Here’s the problem though. I’ve been a victim of downvote brigades. It usually starts with someone downvoting every single post in one of my communities. Fine, maybe they don’t like my politics. But then it spreads. They start hitting every community I run, even the non-political ones, and downvote everything I post. Eventually, they downvote every single post I make anywhere, just because it’s me.

    Some people genuinely get joy out of doing that. They don’t read the post or care about the content. They just see a name they don’t like and hit downvote.

    I’m not making this up. I saw it happen over and over. That’s why banning users based solely on voting behavior became a feature. It was needed.

    So I started banning people who only showed up to downvote and never contributed. Once I did that, they stopped bothering those communities. They knew they couldn’t mess with me anymore.

    Since then, serial downvoting has dropped across the Fediverse. People figured out they could get banned for it.

    It wasn’t about disagreeing with information. It was about targeting people. I’m not saying OP did that, but that’s the pattern I’ve seen.

    I personally would like to see votes be eliminated for the entire fediverse so the vote manipulators have no way to try to shape narratives.

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      I think you’re making it out to be a bigger deal than it actually is.

      Also, you put too much value into the meaning of votes.

      This is a disgusting precedent and we should be fighting back against it. Hell, people were literally coming here because reddit was banning them for how they voted.

      Why is it so difficult for average people to not be pieces of shit in positions of power? Learn to deal with criticism.

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        I think you’re making it out to be a bigger deal than it actually is.

        Well, the developers did make it a feature to be able to ban based on voting.

        We didn’t always have that feature, it’s relatively new. So I guess there were enough people asking for it that it became a thing. Also, you yourself mentioned that you were troubled at seeing the “normalization” of the practice, so obviously there are enough people seeing it as an issue that you have noticed it.

        Also, you put too much value into the meaning of votes.

        Again, I’d love if Lemmy got rid of the option to upvote/downvote. And just for background, I once had a guy who would take screen shots of how many dowvotes I had on my posts, then post that screenshot, and laugh about it and use that to argue to others that they should just bully me off of Lemmy. I won’t say his name here, but he still mentions my name a lot. lol

        Learn to deal with criticism.

        There’s criticism, and then there’s the weird stalker types that seem to be on Lemmy that become serial downvoters. There are even some that create downvoting bots. Yeah, bots just to downvote. That has also been an issue that admin had to work on.

        No voting at all, would solve it though!

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          Yeah, we need to make sure people like you and ideas like yours infest as few communities as possible.

          You’re clearly not mature enough to handle anonymous discourse on the internet, so you need to have tools in place to abuse your power against those you don’t like.

          I’m going to ignore you now. Hopefully we don’t have to cross paths again and I never have the displeasure of seeing one of your censored communities.

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            Yeah, we need to make sure people like you and ideas like yours infest as few communities as possible.

            That sounds like the very censorship you seem to be arguing against though.

            I’m going to ignore you now.

            Of course, you’re free to ignore me. That is the right attitude! I would prefer people “ignore” and “block” rather than become serial downvoters.

            Thanks, friend! :)

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      You would like to get rid of votes? The one thing that differentiated Reddit and now Lemmy? Why are you not using Facebook or Discord or any other platforms focused on positive community building?

      And no I did not target this person. As I have explained I scrolled hot and Lemmy doesn’t have enough content yet to idk “drown out the noise”

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        Yes, I would like to get rid of votes. Because people weaponize them, and people like you take advantage of them. If you don’t agree with a community, just block it and move on. You don’t need to go in and just do a long stream of downvoting.

        In a perfect world, voting works. But lemmy seems to draw a crowd that seems to harbor more obsessive types who can’t let something go.

        Brah, you don’t even like the community you’re mad about! lol But you seem mad that now you aren’t allowed to downvote there anymore.

        The mod even gave you a chance to be unbanned, and you decided not to take him up on it. You brought it here to see opinions, and most of the opinions are that you are in the wrong. It is what it is.