• iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    If you want less immigration then stop foreign policies that help fuck up other countries. Not saying that is the only cause but in the long run probably more effective than rounding up random people from the street.

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    They are all paid by the same people, Its not that hard to see which side they are on.

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          Sometimes? But even like 20 years ago when every single ABC/FOX/NBC anchor was literally given a script (teleprompter) the the way down to the local level and they were instructed to adhere to it as rigidly as possible

          Edit: I exaggerate slightly, but not as much as you might think

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        No chance that more than a fourth of them realize it’s from the Cold War and originally mean nations that were neither in the sphere of Soviet or American interest. They just think it means poor country with brown people

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          The Soviets, eastern Europeans, CHYNA, Cuba and North Korea are 2nd world. Odd that they would omit those countries from their rhetoric …

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            Well, as the Warsaw pact doesn’t exist anymore, there are no second world countries.

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                But the alliances don’t, which is where the term came from. If you’re going to get pedantic about it, it’s odd to be so selective.

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            First World: “the west”

            Second World: countries contested by the first and third that routinely had/have their sovereignty violated. Integral to “domino theory.”

            Third World: socialist/communist nations

            Edit: lmao don’t whiskey and lemmy yall. Flipped second and third

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                I wonder who came up with this nomenclature. Certainly wouldn’t be the ones who chose to call themselves ‘first world’ right?

                Glad to see its no longer taken seriously in any sort of academic or intellectual context.

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      This one is a lot more explicit, which is not a great sign(as if the rest of everything else right now was)

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          Depends where you look. I’ve heard it from white nationalists in cesspits like reddit for the past 15 years.

          I think your exposure level will come down to whether your demographic is more likely to be on the delivery or receiving end of racism in your region.

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            I can assure you I am as steeped in the online right as you are, and this was simply not a common term (until now apparently).

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              I don’t know if its a common term among white fascists but I can tell you that I have personally seen nonwhite individuals described this way online and even in real life in more backwards parts of North America. This was more than 10 years ago.

              Maybe its only becoming mainstream now. But racists have been talking like this for a long time. You may not be the kind of person they target so it would be hard for you to know.

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                Dude again I know what it means to say someone or something or someplace is “third world.” It’s the very specific “first worlder” term I’ve never encountered.

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                  Sure bro, I hear what you’re saying. I’m just saying that I’ve heard regressive folk refer to groups of people as third worlders since before 2015. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it hasn’t been said (especially if its not a phrase that would typically be directed at you with contempt).

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          “Third world” has been code for poor brown people basically since the designations were first made during the cold war.

          Do you mean you’ve never heard the term at all, or just this very specific usage in this very specific instance?

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            Yes I know third world. I’m saying “third worlders.” This specific term. I’ve never heard someone called a “third worlder.”

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              It means the same thing, there’s just an extra two letters added to the end. Were you shocked every time you first saw a cat with a color you hadn’t seen before, too?

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                  … then don’t stab me repeatedly? I don’t know what you want. I thought I was having a discussion, not getting into armed combat.

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                They aren’t the same thing. “Third worlder” can be applied to a specific individuals that are from third world countries and, I suspect, will be applied to people not actually from the third world anyway.

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                  Yes, it’s the same thing applied to a specific individual. Generalizing does not make it less offensive.

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                I think you know exactly what I am saying and probably don’t even object, but you consider yourself too deep in the hole now to admit it. So I’m going to do the polite thing and give you an offramp here by ending the conversation before you make an even bigger ass of yourself.

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    When a group pf people all share the same one brain cell, they tend to repeat each other.

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    lol America may as well be a “third world country”

    Why would anyone from a developed country come to the rapidly deteriorating US?

    Idiocracy.

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    “Talking Points Memo” isn’t just a website. The term comes from a Republican strategy to send out a memo to the party explaining what the message is that party leadership wants hammered on public media this week. It includes a list of “talking points” with premade example quotes.

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      Way back when the Daily Show used to cut together clips of GOP talking heads pivoting to their talking points in interviews, regardless of the question being asked. It was surreal. And the Left never found a way to counter it, which is why they still do it today.

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        I’m always baffled why ‘journalists’ don’t just repeat “Answer the fucking question” at politicians when they do that. Seems like a pretty simple way to counter it.

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        I remember that as far back as early aughts. Why isn’t there a counter? Granted, we’ve known about Fox News being propaganda but nobody seems to do anything about that, either.

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          because the counter is an actually competent news media free from the control of private interests who would actually push back against the bullshit when it’s being peddled, but Americans didn’t want to support that. They want news to be feckless entertainment, and so it is.

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        Thank you, wanted to make sure someone posted it. And the sad thing is, this is how we got Trump. Boomers ate this shit up from their “local” news…

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    Turns out chatbots are just “intelligent” enough to copy/paste shit and change it a little so it doesn’t get automatically removed.

    Also the DOJ told us these people take money from the Kremlin.

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    It’s jarringly obvious that they are just told what to say.

    Reminds me of propaganda workers in Serbia that sometimes copy their messages along with additional instructions, so you’d see something like “LONG LIVE THE PRESIDENT but change it a bit so that it’s not all the same” in the comments of news platforms.

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    What the fuck is this outdated “third world” term?

    Switzerland was neutral during the Cold War so are y’all banning the Swiss from immigrating?

    Russia is technically 2nd world, so they’re fine?

    What is this dumb terminology lmfao.

    Okay I think they meant “developing countries”.

    But why would someone from a developed region such as the EU immigrate to the US? The only reason why someone would want to come is because their country is already terrible and they want to take a risk, but if you ban them from coming, then you have zero immigration and your country collapses due to insufficient workers. Lol, dumbass politicians.

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      The term has been hijacked from it’s original meaning, much like irony.

      That said, it’s so dumb. The folks from developing countries are much more likely to be on “their side”. People from developing countries tend to be a great deal more religious. While folks from the EU tend to be less religious, and want more “socialist” programs from the government.

      But of course they can’t get over their racism to even make any good decisions.

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      Its the way they refer to poor nonwhite countries.

      Developing works too, kind of.

      Low income / high income is the most neutral way to frame it.

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      Plenty of high educated EU citizens migrate to the US for the higher wages though. Then move back home after a decade with a nice nest egg.

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    Most con shit is stupid by design, like those scam emails that are deliberately written in broken English so that only stupid people will fall for them. Why would they bother writing something complex when they need an army of morons to lap up the talking points?