AbuTahir@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-225 days agoApple just proved AI "reasoning" models like Claude, DeepSeek-R1, and o3-mini don't actually reason at all. They just memorize patterns really well.archive.isexternal-linkmessage-square347fedilinkarrow-up1876arrow-down142file-textcross-posted to: [email protected]
arrow-up1834arrow-down1external-linkApple just proved AI "reasoning" models like Claude, DeepSeek-R1, and o3-mini don't actually reason at all. They just memorize patterns really well.archive.isAbuTahir@lemm.ee to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · edit-225 days agomessage-square347fedilinkfile-textcross-posted to: [email protected]
minus-squarereksas@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up39arrow-down2·26 days agodoes ANY model reason at all?
minus-square4am@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up35arrow-down1·26 days agoNo, and to make that work using the current structures we use for creating AI models we’d probably need all the collective computing power on earth at once.
minus-squareMiles O'Brien@startrek.websitelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·26 days ago… So you’re saying there’s a chance?
minus-squareRefurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.orglinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·26 days agoThat sounds really floppy.
minus-squareauraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9·edit-226 days agoDefine reason. Like humans? Of course not. They lack intent, awareness, and grounded meaning. They don’t “understand” problems, they generate token sequences.
minus-squareMrLLM@ani.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·26 days agoI think I do. Might be an illusion, though.
does ANY model reason at all?
No, and to make that work using the current structures we use for creating AI models we’d probably need all the collective computing power on earth at once.
… So you’re saying there’s a chance?
10^36 flops to be exact
That sounds really floppy.
Define reason.
Like humans? Of course not. They lack intent, awareness, and grounded meaning. They don’t “understand” problems, they generate token sequences.
as it is defined in the article
I think I do. Might be an illusion, though.