I have never posted, commented or did anything else in this community and only found out when I wanted to make a post about the GNU Taler in Switzerland.

I have been a vocal critic of Israeli Warcrimes and Nettanyahus authoritarianism, calling him a potential Fascist. But I guess that wasn’t Anti-Israel enough and therefore Zionism.

I guess this is a modern-day example of “the revolution devours its own children”.

  • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    271·
    2 days ago

    Checking your comment history, you seemed to conflate anti Zionism with anti Semitism, and accused @[email protected] of being an antisemite. I’m going with YDI.

    This is what I could tell from the comments though. If I’m wrong do correct me.

    • FelixCress@lemmy.world
      171·
      2 days ago

      You are not wrong. He appears to be one of genocide apologists.

      Edit: Funnily enough, I don’t even consider myself “anti Zionist”, although Israeli supporters may think about me this way since I support one state with equal rights for all residents and right to return for all Palestinian refugees and their descendants.

      But more importantly, I am just opposed to genocide and nazi scum. I guess this is enough to be labelled these days.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 hours ago

        I support one state with equal rights for all residents and right to return for all Palestinian refugees and their descendants.

        This stance is inherently anti-zionist, which is a good thing

      • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        93·
        2 days ago

        I support one state with equal rights for all residents and right to return for all Palestinian refugees and their descendants. But more importantly, I am just opposed to genocide and nazi scum.

        This is anti-zionism. You should consider yourself an anti-zionist. It’s actually a good thing to oppose fascism. No need to quibble about it.

    • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      39·
      1 day ago

      I tend to be careful to not call a person antisemitic, which leads to more confrontation and toxicity from my experience, but to instead explain to them why their actions are antisemitic. The same here.

      I went back to look at the Discussion and in this case this particular user told me that “Jews” were the “Nationality” of Israel. I told them why this was antisemitism, told them why (mixing Judaism the Religion with Israel the state) and asked them to stop this.

      I honestly don’t think I did anything wrong there. I didn’t call them antisemitic and instead calmly explained to them why their statements were antisemitic. I blocked them instead of letting the discussion get out of control when it became clear they would continue even after my explanation why it was antisemitic.

      No name-calling, calm explanation and disengagement instead of escalation.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 hours ago

        Israels own designations are ‘Israeli Jews’ and ‘Israeli Arabs’ and has a nation-state law explicitly defining Israel as a Jewish State.

        This is due to Zionism being a supremacist ideology

        Israel conflates Judaism and Zionism on a regular basis, which is certainly antisemitic.

        I don’t know the context of the discussion, so I can’t really say either way. It is correct that Israel considers Jews the Nationality of Israel, it is also true that Israel’s use of such is itself antisemitic.

        Adi Callai, an anti-zionist Jewish Israeli, has an in depth analysis of the history of antisemitism and how Zionism has weaponized it for it’s own ends

    • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      89·
      2 days ago

      Wait, so I was banned for disagreeing with a moderator?

      That’s almost worse and even more powertripping, wtf?

      • Rob299 - she/her@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        41·
        2 days ago

        I don’t think its necessarily because you disagreed with them. They likely have rules or policies of some kind against it and banned said user for a reason. You trying to defend a user that they had banned, does it not sound like you are either apart of that or atleast preventing the fires form being put out after they had banned the user. You are conflicting with a moderation decision against a user that they likely deemed violated some of their rules.

    • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      05·
      1 day ago

      I’m not sure we should call them antisemitic. It feels like the lefts’ equivalent of DEI. They’re just kind of slipping into it.

      And we all know what calling Anti-DEI people (lite-racists) racists led to. Polarisation and Donald Trump.

      I think instead of shaming them, we should talk to them and calmy and kindly explain why certain talking points are antisemitic and why they shouldn’t use them.

      If that makes sense?