• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    You aren’t really refuting the conundrum presented by the woman. She is pointing out the same thing you are, but I feel like you’re not getting the point.

    Trans women are too strong to be in women’s sports, implying they are stronger than cis women. Yet simultaneously being told they are too weak to be in the army, something that they aren’t even saying of cis women, implying that trans women are weaker than cis women.

    The woman in the interview is correctly pointing out the hypocrisy here to highlight that it’s not logical, it’s just bigotry.

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      20 hours ago

      I feel like their hypocrisy and transphobia can be pointed out even simpler by:

      “No!! You can’t be in women’s sports, because you are a man!!”
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      “No!! You can’t be in the military, because you’re not… a… man…?”

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        7 hours ago

        It’s like how Imane Khalif is a man because she has a vagina and higher testosterone levels, but I am not a man because I have a vagina and higher testosterone levels.

        When you argue with TERFs, it’s very easy to get them to contradict themselves like this. It’s not a consistent ideology - it’s “ewww yucky trans people.” Which is why we have an epidemic of alt right weirdos who are all of a sudden very committed radical feminists (despite having basically no knowledge of radical feminist theory - if you press them, they’ll claim Andrea fucking Dworkin wasn’t a radical feminist because she wasn’t a TERF!)

        You can’t expect what they say to make sense. It’s the game of the alt right - they don’t believe anything they say, they just know that people have to respond to their words and not the meaning.

    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
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      20 hours ago

      I mean I feel like it’s pretty easy to follow what they’re saying. There is a gradient between the 2 points. It’s not an on/off switch, it’s not binary. It’s why fascist logic is bullshit to begin with.