• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      The ethnic cleansing of, by Russia’s count, nearly a million Ukrainian children from the occupied territories?

      The erasure of Ukrainian culture in the occupied territories?

      The intentional mass slaughter of Ukrainian civilians and prisoners?

      The repeated statements from high-ranking officials in the Russian government that the goal is the destruction of the Ukrainian nation?

      • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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        Okay, yes, it checks a TON of genocide boxes, and every action Russia has made this whole time supports genocide, and they literally are calling for it at the state level, but can you really say for sure that it’s genocide?

        I mean just because it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and shares 99.999% the same DNA as a duck, doesn’t mean for sure it’s a duck.

        I’d say the /s isn’t necessary, but apparently it is since people still seem confused about the whole “genocide” thing… Somehow

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          It’s not genocide unless they systematically stuff Polish Jews into railroad cars and keep them in labor camps until they kill them all in gas chambers disguised as showers but ONLY if they use right kind of gas and ONLY IF there’s at least 5 million of them and ONLY IF the Soviet Union grinds them down so American can swoop in and claim capitalism won and fascism can secretly continue the way the confederacy also got off the hook. Then it’s genocide.

          Everything is just sparkling ethnic cleansing.

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            You joke, but legit since the Holocaust was so bad that there’s resistance to call anything less than that a genocide.

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          Umm how do you define genocide??! Cause it’s pretty obvious to me that genocide is defined as: “something bad I don’t like but isn’t what Russia is doing?”

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        “Destroying a nation” does not inherently mean “genocide”.

        That was the historic norm. If you lost a war, you ended up under the flag of the conquering country and were expected to adopt at least some aspects of their culture. But in general, much of the civilian population survived. A thousand states vanished from Europe in the last millenium, but only a handful of times did it result in their entire populations being slaughtered/displaced.

        I suspect much of the time, it was more valuable to have more subjects than a lot of empty land with nobody to work it. Not like Russia has that problem already…

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          Actually yeah, that’s genocide and history is full of it.

          Enough that something is wrong with you if you don’t feel a little gross being a human who’s ok with continuing it, and deciding to do whatever you can to encourage breaking the cycle.

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      Entire villages of civillians mowed down, raped and tortured to death. Indiscriminate bombing of civillians. Kidnapping of children. Castration.

      Learn russian and play on east eu servers and listen to their slurs and calls for genocide.

      If you think usa is the worst and evillest then you just don’t know anything about how the world is.

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        Aside from the serious topic, I find it really funny your recommendation to get a better picture is “go play some games on east eu servers and get yelled at in voice chat”. Gives me serious Counter-Strike flashbacks.

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      Kremlin propaganda is openly saying there is no Ukrainian state. Just russians talking funny.

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        Yeah I was. Was reading the “everything” feed and didn’t realize I was commenting in a sub where asking a question would mean everyone assumes I’m pro Russian. Look at my profile I’m a real person.