• SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net
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    I found lister to be incredibly optimistic. Sure he got down now and then but, like, he’s essentially isolated knowing there isn’t much else coming for him in life (and sure that ends up not being true, due to various shenanigans), so the fact that he keeps going and doesn’t just turn into a puddle of goo is pretty heartening, imho.

    Perseverance and stuff. Enjoy what comes because it may be the only good that does.

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      There are actually a few books based on the series, written by by the series show runners.

      Lister does end up as a human puddle for a time. Which is why Holly brings Rimmer back as a hologram. The one person who can drive Lister insane enough to keep going.

      The show sort of touches on this, but the books make it quite clear that Holly could have brought anyone back, and specifically chose Rimmer.

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        I’m not familiar with that work but based on your presentation, I’d argue that that goo puddle was actually just a phase of being down, like deep depression, because, importantly, he didn’t stay a goo pile. Being down and depressed is fine, life happens, but coming out of it and longing for living life as a result is pretty optimistic. You have to -really believe- things are going to improve to be light, even with someone perfectly optimized to drive you crazy to keep you sane… that doesn’t touch on how it feels. And considering the burden, he was super light about it.

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        I thought the show was explicit in that reason for rimmer coming back.

        Are the books worth a read? I get kind of sad watching red dwarf now because my life has changed a lot since I discovered the show. But the show is excellent and wish I knew people in real space who could appreciate it.

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          There are 4 books, and yeah, they’re good. A bit darker than the show, but still comedy.

          It starts with Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers, which is Episodes one and two? Of the show… maybe some more thrown in… It actually starts with Lister on Earth and tells how he ended up on the Dwarf. He got drunk and doesn’t quite remember signing on.

          Better than Life and Backwards were both single episodes… But of course expanded for book form.

          I don’t remember reading The Last Human…

          Anyway, they’re a bit hard to find, and certainly not in ebook format.

          Fun fact, the full crew got together last year to film another three episode special. No idea when it will air