As posted about recently in [email protected] and [email protected] it seems that @[email protected]’s stance on transphobia has not changed and his apology only seems to be that he was sorry he got caught and that someone leaked the DM. This is concerning for an admin of Lemmy.ml and the leader of the project. I don’t think this means we should stop using Lemmy, it’s open-source and even if they embed donation links, they can be stripped out in our fork. But it does make me wonder if we should consider defederating lemmy.ml on that merit. Since if they hold such views on trans issues, it’s very likely they won’t have any desire to act on that type of transphobia being expressed on their instance.

I know that Lemmy.ml has and does handle overt transphobia well, but I can’t speak to their ability to handle less overt or thinly veiled transphobia, and this incident doesn’t inspire much confidence either.

Edit: Since some people haven’t seen the original. I decided to include it here. Warning, it contains transphobia, if you don’t want to see that, don’t open the spoiler.

CW: Transphobic talking points

I’d really like to hear Feedback from Blahaj’s local community on this, I’m not as interested in outside opinions here so please try to refrain from top-level commenting if you aren’t from lemmy.blahaj.zone (I will ignore them if you comment anyway from a remote instance).

  • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Multiple states: “Let’s literally use the force of law to ban trans people from existing.”

    This jackoff: “Hmmm, I just don’t know if the bourgeoisie is really against trans rights! It’s so hard to tell!”

    I’m not going to weigh in on the defederation issue. I don’t use enough .ml communities to know how this guy’s views reflect in the moderation policies of the instance. But fuck him in particular.

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      Generally .ml is pretty trans rights, because their mods are hexbear alts.

      This is just petty splitter bullshit, same as always…

      But I also block .ml because their mods policies annoy me.

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        ml is pretty trans rights, because their mods are hexbear alt

        Hexbear has had its fair share of issues with sexism and objectification of trans women. There was a pretty big upset a while ago where people spoke up about being harassed, the community’s reaction to it was pretty shitty.

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        My experience is that hexbear only care about trans rights when criticizing “west”. As soon as China or Russia are discussed, they turn surprisingly silent.

        YMMV

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          Yeah that’s probably fair, on a global political level. Still leaves them pretty rabid in terms of what they’ll let you say without banning you though.

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      I swear I’ve seen this exact comment in a similar thread some time ago. I think your take is flawed or even disingenuous. We all know that trans issues are manufactured outrage. Which is what nutomic appears to be saying.

      This whole controversy with him reeks of comment baiting and using an off the cuff comment in order to undermine the Lemmy project. It’s no coincidence that this thread came up right after the devs say that they are running out of funding.

      Why is it suddenly time to defederate with ml when this happened months ago.? The only real negative thing he said is about trans sports, but honestly I don’t think the lgbtq community gave a hot damn about highschool and college women’s sports before.

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            This what you are doing here is called sealioning and you need to stop. You were denying the reality of transphobia and the struggles of trans people and you got called out for it. You need to take the feedback that you did something wrong and check yourself, they don’t owe you an explanation of their identities and experiences. You are an outsider in this safe-space for trans people.

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              Again with the bullshit intentional misrepresentation of what I said. It’s sus as hell that there’s such a push to destroy Lemmy when it’s one of the few safe places for trans people online.

              You probably work for meta or musk or reddit trying to kill the project.

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                You probably work for meta or musk or reddit trying to kill the project.

                Ah yes, because bad-jacketing users is totally a way to make you seem credible. Fuck off dude, this is a trans friendly space. Who do you think you are coming here telling trans people they are “just being reactionary” then sealioning and bad-jacketing users when they call you out on your bullshit.