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“We’re not going to violate your privacy by opening your mail at the postal sorting center! We’re just going to switch from the old system, of posting your sealed letters into the post box, to a new system, of you handing your unsealed letters to a postal worker, who will read them and then seal and send them for you as long as they don’t find anything that matches a list of objectionable topics. Privacy protected! Now let’s not hear any more silliness about Big Brother!”
I wonder if politicians are too stupid to realize their information is at stake too, and that they usually have much more to hide than the average person.
I’m reminded of the law passed in Alabama declaring the value of pi to be exactly three.
This is a hoax according to snopes.com, New Mexicans for Science and Reason, and Advance Local.
There was a proposal for a bill known as the Indiana Pi Bill (read it here) in 1897, according to Wikipedia. Notably, it had no basis in religion. Setting pi is not the main point of the bill, but it does say
the ratio of the diameter and circumference is as five-fourths to four
which sets the ratio of circumference to diameter, pi, as 4/1.25=3.2.
I suppose it was Indiana, but I stand by my irritation with Alabama nonetheless.
I have shit on Alabama my whole life(from Georgia) and I’ve never heard this, I clearly was too kind
Yes this is bad. But how does this effect everyone else outside of the fact that other governments think it’s a good idea because the British are doing it. Is it because it will effect anyone talking to British people? If Signal or another app is dedicated to privacy then just don’t officially make your app available there. I really hope this doesn’t go through but if it does what other option do apps have?
… I’m at the state in this world, even as a 24yo having seen so much … been cheated, my mother’s country is at war, worrying about close people dying because of a stupid president deciding to brainwash his whole country and commit atrocities and hearing even about nuclear war, having seen so much gore, people dying from stupid childish wars, past girlfriend was raped and then she abandoned me when I took care of her so much and loved her … seeing my father dying at my 20yo from cancer and seeing him suffering from pure pain even on morphine … and me thriving despite all of this and having felt all this pain renting my own home at a poor country, building my career with pain and sweat.
Point is … such things start feeling so … stupid … insignificant sometimes … and childish and bizarre straight like they came from TheOnion. They start feeling like they’re there more to entertain you rather than make you angry. Because … they’re TOO STUPID in relation to what you’ve been in.
in general having felt so much at such an age, it’s starts overwhleming me, that im at a point where even things like this can feel … like … “yeah … okay be my guest. Fuck encryption. Be … my … fucking … guest, you first”.
Politicians are so fucking stupid that they don’t even realize they have MUCH … MUCH more to hide than the average joe.
Be my motherfucking guest and ban encryption. No, ban doors on homes too. You have nothing to hide … right? So, why not ban doors too? And locks! Ban locks! Why do we have a whole industry for locking sht? We have nothing to hide! We shouldn’t lock things!
this clearly has nothing to do with online safety 😂
I think we could resolve this fairly quickly by totally cutting England off from the global internet. Kind of like North Korea, really. No online banking, no email, no online gaming, no streaming video services. No online maps. No voice chatting, or even general chatting. All of this requires encryption, non-negotiably.
They’ll break fast. It will look worse historically than Brexit and do more long term trade damage than the damned Austrian diethylene glycol wine scandal.
Unfortunately the mission to regain control of information flow is a top-down policy and the UK government is just swimming in the direction everybody is being steered to. There are several countries all implementing their own versions of this, for example India recently banning some e2ee apps. Also the EU has approved a law which requires that companies be able to scan content of user messages.
I don’t know any specifics about the laws being considered in North America, or what’s happening in South America, Africa or the rest of Asia at all, but I’d imagine any banned list would be pretty long by the time the dust settles. In the meantime it’ll be more than a little cringe worthy watching the politicians in different countries trying to take credit for the trickle down policies they sell.
Perhaps a technical solution could be apps with backdoored encryption exposing an interface for other apps to pass and receive encrypted messages. Dividing themselves in two even. A custom text editor isn’t a messaging app.
Shit, man, seems like it’s always something. There have been a number of attempts at that in the USA, but they’ve almost all been shot down as blatantly unconstitutional or were severely weakened in their scope. You aren’t stuck in an affected area, are you?
It looks like the US is still gunning for it, which is expected with top-down globalist policy. Yes, I’m in the UK where the last few leaders haven’t been elected by the people. All perfectly normal stuff.
I read that article but I’m failing to see how it relates to our conversation? We’ve always had biometric data on both criminal suspects and also state employees and contractors. There doesn’t seem to be anything here on explicitly fighting private encryption?
It’s the section “Access to electronic evidence” and the talk of encryption there, with delegates pressing “lawful access by design”. They aren’t dreaming of lawful access to encrypted byte streams and when there’s a backdoor for lawful access today, it’s available for different laws tomorrow. They do seem like they are on the same page on this, which isn’t surprising since it was floated onto the G7 agenda from wherever globalist policy originates from.
That would literally mean after the acquisition of a search warrant in America, which are generally not easy to get; so I’m still not terribly worried about it. The US isn’t the EU.
I’m too cynical. I hope to once again share some faith in the system again. All the best!
