Hi, I moved this year to another city, because my internet provider didn’t give me a dedicated ipv4 address I can’t use a dyndns like duckdns. Another thing to mention is, that I have a dslite tunnel. So I can’t set up dyndns…
So my recent setup is a truenas server sitting under my desk. This is connected via cloudflared to the cloudflare tunnel. There I have my services like seafile or nextcloud configured. They are all pointing to a traefik instance that routes the traffic to the right container.
So to summarize what I have:
- Truenas server
- multiple services
- dslite tunnel
- own domain
- Cloudflare tunnel
- v-server
- Nginx
- docker
To visualize the route the traffic is going
Internet - cloudflare tunnel - cloudfared docker - traefik docker - service (nextcloud) docker
So I want to setup something on my v-server that routes the traffic to my homeserver (truenas)
Internet - DNS (cloudflare) - v-server - (magic docker service on truenas) - traefik docker - service (nextcloud) docker
Does someone have an idea how to solve this?
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My suggestion would be to setup a VPN service in your publicly available v-server. The most suggested solution is wireguard.
Then you can connect your truenas to that VPN and make it accessible, maybe via nginx.
The traffic flow would be:
nginx on v-server --(wireguard)--> traefik --> NextcloudThat’s a good point. But that’s also the point where my tinkering won’t help me… Do you have a writeup or a yt video where nginx points to the wireguard VPN? Another question. If I set up the wireguard tunnel, how can I just route the traffic from traefik?
I found this writeup and it looks correct, but I have not tested it.
The author posted a nice graphic that shows the idea:
I’m not sure I understand why they need two Caddy servers. The first one should be a simple port forward, no need for a proxy forward. Unless they want to do something with the connections at application level, but it sounds like they simply forward them as-is.
You need two caddy servers if there are other websites on the vserver that will use port 80/443. If not, port forwarding (eg. with iptables) will work.
Basically once you have WG set up, you will have an additional interface with it’s own IP in “ifconfig”. At that point all the ports are available and you can just point your reverse proxy to them (sorry I’m an NGINX user, I have no idea how Traefik works).
Additionally don’t forget to add keep-alive in your WG config so that the service doesn’t shut off once traffic stops going between both servers.
Install Tailscale (1) on the VPS and (2) in a Docker container on TrueNAS. The Tailscale container #2 will replace the cloudflared container. Set the Tailscale #2 node as a subnet router exposing the Traefik container’s netmask (you probably already know how to get networking going between two Docker containers).
What you’ll end up with:
Internet -> DNS (your domain) -> VPS public IP (Tailscale node #1 ===> Tailscale node #2 in Docker on TrueNas) -> Traefik -> web apps on your TrueNAS
Tailscale is not bandwidth-limited like Cloudflare because the nodes only use Tailscale’s servers for the initial rendez-vous (to get out of NAT), then you will use the direct bandwidth between the VPS and your home connection.
You will also be able to use other DNS services if you want, because you won’t be forced to use Cloudflare’s anymore.
This actually sounds insanely cool. Without having looked at their documentation, can you make a rough statement about the required hardware power for the VPS, especially if traffic may include bandwith heavy stuff like movie streaming or large data up/downloads?
In that case you should probably give up using your own domain and take the one from Tailscale because they would intermediate direct connections whenever possible.
The main limitation on the VPS would be bandwidth as well as total transfer, not so much processing power because their just be moving stuff through. They all come with limits.
Is there some reason you want to kick CF tunnels to the curb? They seem to work great for your use case (and, to be fair, mine. Love me some tunnels toget around my ISP CGNAT)
The problem is with nextcloud on my end. Some files just can’t get synced and bigger files won’t even go through. Perhaps something is misconfigured, but I think I red something, that cloudflare tunnels only support x gb of traffic at once.
CF free tier specifies in their ToS it’s not for media so likely yeah, you’re getting some sort of rate limitation.
100mb is the max I think
That’s the HTTP POST upload limit for 1 request
Thanks good to know, after I hit this upload limit with one of my services I honestly considered nuking the whole nginx setup and using WG or TS, still on the fence about it all
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters CF CloudFlare CGNAT Carrier-Grade NAT DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web IP Internet Protocol NAT Network Address Translation SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access VPN Virtual Private Network VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) nginx Popular HTTP server
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rathole aims to be somewhat of a replacement for CF tunnels. It was featured on noted some time ago: https://noted.lol/cgnat-and-rathole/
A linode vps is what I use
This question is not related to the question you ask but where did you learn to configure traefik? When I try it out I didn’t understand how to route traffic through that.
So I use traefik on my truenas server from the truecharts catalogue. If you need help there I can send you the corresponding links from the
website later, I am not at the computer right now.
I will really appreciate if you send me the links! The image is broken and not loading :(
So here is the setup for truecharts with traefik and the things needed for proper truecharts setup: https://truecharts.org/manual/SCALE/guides/getting-started
Do you also use cloudflare tunnel?
Besides the great suggestions others have given, the OpenZiti project (openziti.io) looks interesting, though I haven’t found the need or time to try it out.
Haven’t tried it myself, but I’ve heard others talk about tailscale
The easiest way I found to passthrough a cgnat is using a VPN.
I suggest using Tailscale, cause it does some tricks to bypass cgnat and you can access your truenas server.
I’m in the same boat and looking at options. I’ve benchmarked several options tht provide their own relays, and am in the process of setting up my own relays to test out on oracle free tier vps, which will probably be the best option as all the bandwidth that vps can handle will be dedicated to you and not shared. That said I’ve found tailscale to perform the best and twingate to perform the worst. I’m looking at netbird and netmaker but they’re extremely buggy and difficult to get going. Netbird is just busted in so many ways. Netmaker’s relays can’t get past my cgnat. Self hosting both of these should work but I’ve not tried it yet. The absolute easiest to set up has been tailscale though, can’t go wrong with that. For most use cases except for handling massive amounts of data, tailscale should be more than sufficient. That said, I’m looking to try selfhosting netbird, netmaker and headscale to see how those perform compared to tailscale’s own relays.
Have you tried zerotier? Another option is to get a vps with unlimited bandwith and setup ovpn server on it. Then you need a router that can connect as a client to vpn. This way you will have a public ip and you dont need to mess with tunnel services. A vps with public ip is about 10 bucks a month.
You could proxy your Webservice though a reverse SSH tunnel to a vps (that’s basically what cloudflare tunnels do)
